Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Comment by Daniel W on June 15, 2017 at 2:11pm

Joan, interesting permaculture related video.  I was intrigued by the seaberries.  I've seen them in catalogs.  We have space for a few more shrubs, although I don't want to plant more expensive deer food.  Maybe I'll put them on my list next year.  Also, they are need both male and female plants, so the investment is more.

Randy, I only take photos of the parts that I like :-)  there are lots of weedy areas.  My persimmon flowers are not open yet, and it's still chilly and rainy.  Next week?

Rainy and chilly today, and having more pains.  I'm taking a break today.

Photo is the first ginkgo tree that I've been able to grow by grafting scion from a desired tree, a male that grew from seeds by late dad had collected 20 years ago, to rootstock grown from locally collected seeds.  Of three attempts, this is my sole success.  Fortunately, it is thriving, and all of the growth is the scion from my dad's tree.  The photo below that is the tree that provided the scion.

Comment by Daniel W on June 15, 2017 at 1:49pm


Your ambitions sound very interesting!  Keep us posted!
I have been trying to grow pawpaws (Asimina triloba) for 5 years.  You have to start small, because they don't transplant well.  I have 2 trees that are over 7 foot tall, bloomed for past 3 years, but no fruits yet.  There is a learning curve with them, and I don't know if the climate is the main issue for me.

With co-planting trees in the same hole, you need to consider vigor.  That can be hard to know, so you just do your best.

I have many multigraft fruit trees.  there is a similar issue, sometimes one variety will dominate, although that can be pruned back.  A good thing, if one doesn't prosper or is not good, it can be pruned off and you still have the others on the tree.  Multigrafts can also be good for pollination.

Good luck!

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 14, 2017 at 4:45pm


Comment by Thomas Murray on June 13, 2017 at 2:05pm

Planting fruit trees..

I've been reading several books on the care & varieties of fruit trees. I have two trees ready to be planted...an apple and pear ( I need to get one more)

Of course there are a variety methods to follow and in this particular case I am trying to decide the best planting method for my area. I do have 2.5 acres to plant these trees but limited to maximizing the sunlight hours. Surrounding our home are tall trees and most of them are tall as ten story buildings. These trees block most of the early morning and late afternoon sun. On top of that we will eventually plant some grapes, blueberries, raspberries too.

Having an orchard suggests to plant fruit trees between 10 to 15 feet apart, depending on the tree size i.e. dwarf, semi-dwarf, and regular.

I want to maximize my options (and I am giddy as a school boy)...one intriguing idea is to cluster three trees on a single mound. The trees are 18 inches from each other, and can be of different types. The pruning required is that it must be a V shaped funnel at the center of the three trees.

I supposed I could graft three trees to a single trunk but I do not have any established trees yet and it seems soo....frankensteinish.... Next will be our attempt to plant Asimina triloba, Paw Paw trees and I understand they taste interesting. A three footer cost around $100.00.

Comment by Randall Smith on June 13, 2017 at 8:40am

Daniel, your garden/yard always looks so colorful. I'd be embarrassed to show pictures of mine. Bees loved my persimmon blossoms, and now they're enjoying the Linden (basswood) tree. I also have a lot of clover in the yard. I'm not mowing for two reasons: the bees and to preserve ground moisture. We have about a 30% chance of rain the next couple of days.

Spud, the $60 minimum order is the reason I had to buy 13 trees! Luckily, I plan to plant most of them on the farm where my kids live. Sure hope your avocado makes it. I'm going to water all my old new trees today as they look droopy.

AND......I need to replace two more melon plants that rabbits got when I wasn't looking soon after I uncovered them yesterday morning. That's the 4th time!!

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 13, 2017 at 5:24am

Nice blue flowers, and impressive edibles.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 13, 2017 at 5:20am

During the hot weather last week, many bees were busy at my raspberries.  I even saw a few bumblebees in the cool of the mornings.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 13, 2017 at 5:18am

Sunrise, sunset.  It seems only yesterday when those ducks were small.

Comment by Daniel W on June 12, 2017 at 11:26pm

The ducks have their full adult plumage.  I think they are pretty.

Bees on a Ceonothus.  Not my bees - I gave up after the last hive swarmed or disappeared.

Blackberry starts in cages, potatoes, garlic.  There are some collard greens in there too, left of the blackberries.

Onions and more potatoes

Hot peppers in raised beds.


Comment by Daniel W on June 12, 2017 at 10:29am

Spud:  "Tip tip"  :-)

Not sure what I will do today.  I think it will be nice once it warms up.  Maybe some more mowing, and figure out better deer/rabbit protection for a blackberry I transplanted yesterday.

Fig trees could also use some protection.  While the pawpaws didn't set a single fruit, pears didn't do much more, and cherries dont exactly exploding with fruit, the fig branches are drooping to the ground with their luscious fruits.  Each year it's something different.

Maybe just walk around with camera and take photos for the blog.

Have a nice day everyone!  Randy I hope you get some rain.  Spud, I hope your avocado is just going through adjustment.  I grew some from seeds, a long time ago.  I forget whether they   were delicate or tough.  I bet you're right about the combination of stresses.  Glad your berries are doing great!

Joan, I hope you are getting some good greens in your green house!

Kathy, I hope you are getting to walk in the yard and soak in some country air, when moments allow.


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