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Comment by Joan Denoo on November 29, 2017 at 12:03pm

Spud, I Googled "blueberry for container growing" and this is what I found:

blueberry container growing


Comment by Idaho Spud on November 29, 2017 at 11:31am

Now that I'm spreading lots of wood chips around, I should start getting mushrooms (if I keep them moist).  I spread them for 3 hours yesterday.  Didn't spread a whole lot because I had to tie back raspberry and thorny blackberry canes, then use my narrow wheelbarrow to get into the area beween the canes and my house.  Filled a hole with the large wood chunks and topped it with smaller.  Will mound some soil over that spot.

Comment by Daniel W on November 29, 2017 at 11:02am

Persimmon seeds.  These are from hybrid Asian American persimmon "Nikita's Gift", developed in the 90s (I think) at the Yalta botanical research center in Ukraine. If there is no male persimmon tree around, they make fruit but are seedless.  Last year I grafted a small scion of a male variety to one of the persimmon trees, and it bloomed this spring.  Now I have some seeds to experiment with.

Comment by Daniel W on November 29, 2017 at 10:23am

Some mushrooms around my yard.  I don't know what kind they are, except for the lovely red cap amanita muscari.  Those have emerged a little more fully too.  I think they are more plentiful here because I apply so much tree leaves and arborist chips to the yard.  As I understand it, the visible mushrooms are just a visible manifestation of a much more extensive underground soil network of mycelium, connecting with tree and plant roots and nourishing the connected plants and trees. 

Comment by Randall Smith on November 28, 2017 at 7:20am

Yes, I've tossed buckets of urine on my garden before. Perhaps a whole bucket in a blueberry hole might work, although I'm guessing it would be too salty.
Spud, you reminded me of picking wild blueberries while I hiked along the sand dunes of Lake Michigan a couple of years ago. They were small (the berries, not the dunes), but quite delicious. The park would frown upon me digging up some plants.
And the only plants I'll grow in containers are flowers.
From my son-in-law's compost pile, I hauled about half a truck load of "black gold" to my garden. I need at least another full truck load. (Small Tacoma truck) Shoveling the wet compost in and out of the truck is labor intensive for a guy my age. Whew!

Comment by Daniel W on November 27, 2017 at 9:00pm

Thomas, when I've been diligent about care and watering, container fruits did very well for me.  They did need a lot more watering, which is my challenge in the hot summer.  The container soil gets hotter than the ground.  It can help to wrap with reflective foil, mylar, or paint white.

As for urine in the garden (pee-cycling), I don't talk about it much because some people get upset about it.  Here are a couple of blog posts I did a while back about pee-cycling.  Pee-cycle #1 2014   Pee-cycle #2  2014

For plants that really grow fast and need lots of nitrogen, like sweet corn, tomatoes, and leafy vegetables, I think it's a good idea, properly done and not overdone. For young trees, ditto although I wonder if I killed a ginkgo tree by overdoing it.

Comment by Daniel W on November 27, 2017 at 7:43pm

Spud, that's cool about huckleberries and being Idaho state fruit.  I don't know WA state fruit.  I have seen articles online about growing them that way.  I imagine, the main thing is to come up with the right soil mix. 

I just finished 2nd batch of plaster on bathroom I'm re-modeling.   I started it 15 years ago so my parents could move here, but they got sick and died instead.  I don't need the bathroom but don't want the junked old bathroom to be a deterrent for potential buyer.  Now while the plaster is drying, I will go spread another truckload of leaves. 

Yesterday was rainy all day.  According to weather channel, in 1 week it will drop to 32F. 

Comment by Thomas Murray on November 27, 2017 at 3:36pm

I can't remember what book I borrowed that mentioned container fruits but one book I enjoyed was:

"The vegetable gardener's container bible : how to grow a bounty of food in pots, tubs, and other containers." by Edward C. Smith.

  What I do remember is the container need to be a bit oversized and the fruit plant to be checked and watered often.The benefits are the same.. easier weed and pest control, etc.... For some reason I also remember that containered fruits (blueberries, blackberries, raspberries and the like) grow more fruits than ground based fruits.I don't know why but it is what I remember....maybe it has something to do with having varieties? It is something I would try this Spring.

"In one year, the average human being produces enough urine to fertilize 6,300 tomato plants which would produce 2.41 tons of tomato fruits in just one season."

ABC News Technology & Science column, Sept 9, 2009

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 27, 2017 at 11:59am

I was just reading about huckleberries on Wikipedia and found out they are Idaho's state fruit.

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 27, 2017 at 11:54am

I do know where to find some wild huckleberries and they have more flavor than blueberries, so I may someday take a trip to the mountains and try transplanting some of them.


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