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Comment by Joan Denoo on July 22, 2017 at 4:57am

Thanks for wanting to help me, I can't find my notes I made when we discussed this before, Sandbox doesn't have the ratios, and even Seri couldn't give me the answer. I knew I would want algebra some day. Well, that doesn't matter, I can't add, subtract, Multiply, or divide any more. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 22, 2017 at 4:11am

Part two:

They eat arborvitae so either fence them or allow the critters to eat as high as they can and the gardener manage the tops. There is a farm on Hiway #2 that has a hedge of arborvitae at last 75 feet long. They just let the animals limb the branches as much as they like and then the gardener keep the tops neatly pruned. It is kind of attractive to my eye. 

Since these plants need protection from critters and frost and they need more safekeeping, perhaps all bean plants, carrots, peppers, and tomatoes. should be in a greenhouse of a more permanent protectionbn 

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 22, 2017 at 4:10am

Daniel, it seems you have your design created for you. 

Because critters don't bother evergreens, maples, or ginkgos, they can be planted wherever you want them.  

Nor do they bother collard greens, turnips, radishes, pumpkin, or squash plants, and so you need no caging for them.  

If the plant is above a foot tall, critters don’t bother corn, onions, garlic,  or potato plants. These need early protection and perhaps a small covering would work. 

Since critters do limited tasting to mulberries, fig trees, and lindens, perhaps they could be grouped together with a light weight wire or a fence, or spread over the property and with individual fences.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 22, 2017 at 12:01am

Mycorrhizal Fungi: The World’s Biggest Drinking Straws And Largest ...

"the mass of mycorrhizal fungi on the planet is estimated to be somewhere between 1.4 and 4 tons per person. "

"Plants depend on mycorrhizal fungal filaments to supply them with a stunning proportion of their needed water and minerals. In some forests, these fungi provide the plants with up to 80% of their nitrogen and 90% of their phosphorus. The fungi, in turn, depend on plants to provide them with organic compounds needed for their own growth."

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 21, 2017 at 11:33am

Funny sign Don.

Comment by Daniel W on July 21, 2017 at 10:00am

Joan, I hope someone else can tell you.  The function for editing size seems to have disappeared from my browser.

Comment by Daniel W on July 21, 2017 at 9:35am

Western mule deer are voraceous and prolific.  Feeding them attracts them.  We discussed electric fencing butbit would be expensive.  Most deterrents dont work or are temporary.  Fencing is the main protection, or just grow things they dont eat.  Here they usually dont browse above 5 feet alhough they eat favored branches up to 7 feet by standing on hind legs.  sprinklers dont deter them.  they eat most young fruit trees, and many vegetables, to near oblivion.  deer in washington state

rabbits also can take an entire row of young beans, sweet corn, onions, overnight.  Voles kill young trees during tge winter by chewing off all of the bark.  Screening sleeve works above ground but they also use mole tunnels to do the same underground. 

My young fruit trees are in cages that work pretty well, but with 50 trees is a challenge.  Ive removed cages now for taller cherries and plums now, 6 years old trees.  that maked maintenance easier.  Dwarf apples may always need cages.  I think I can de-cage the persimmons in another year or two.  They dont bother the older fig trees a lot, just minor damage.

Joan, that is all at the Battleground place. 

Ive learned pretty much what needs protection or what doesnt, although sometimes I get surprises.  I have no problems sharing with wildlife, but they often take it all.

Here, they dont bother evergreens, except arborvitae, they dont touch maples, or ginkgos, limited tasting of mulberries, fig trees, lindens, and I havent given them a chance with my chestnuts.  They dont eat pumpkin or squash plants, or corn above a foot tall, onions or garlic above a foot tall, or potato plants.  They completely destroy all traces of all bean plants, carrots, peppers, some tomatoes.  They dont bother collard greens, turnips, radishes.

Comment by Don on July 21, 2017 at 8:13am

Comment by Don on July 21, 2017 at 7:31am

Joan, those little yellow flowers are hawkweed.  And the meadow is just a lot of wild field plants (clover, fireweed, plantains, dandelion, wild strawberry, campion, Queen Anne's lace, and various grasses that I keep mown.  Those birch logs are one stalk of the gray birch nearby, which I took down because it was bending into the path.  It's a short-lived tree.

Here in Vermont, Thomas, feeding the deer would be illegal.  But numerous as they are, the deer are not to much of a problem for most gardeners.  They do sometimes damage young trees, especially in the winter.  

Comment by Randall Smith on July 21, 2017 at 6:53am

New computer and crumby keyboard, so bear with me. 

On wildlife, it's rabbits and  'coons that are the bane of my garden existance (see Wildlife group post).

Beautiful home and setting,  Don!

Joan, as soon as I replace this keyboard, I'll answer your question.


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