Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Comment by Joan Denoo on June 29, 2017 at 12:46pm

Oregon Health & Science University

I hope everything goes well! Please keep us informed!

Your daylily is beautiful! Are you going to name it? I like the yellow, touched by apricot and the suggestion of ripple in its edge. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 29, 2017 at 11:22am

Mad Scientist, I like your Dallies, especially the Luxury Lace.  It's beautiful.

Comment by Randall Smith on June 29, 2017 at 6:08am

I've seen a couple of garter snakes (maybe the same one) in my yard recently. Hopefully, it will get a mole or chipmunks.

How did your doctor visit go, Daniel?

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 29, 2017 at 5:50am


Comment by Daniel W on June 28, 2017 at 10:22pm

Here is the blossom from another daylily that resulted from my  playing the mad scientist.  The first came out as a pale pink, somewhat narrow petaled flower.  This one is more apricot color, rounder flower with a little ruffle in the petals.  More compact plant, I think worth keeping to see what it does in the long run.

Comment by Daniel W on June 28, 2017 at 10:40am

Poor snake!

Probably no garden work today.  Yesterday I was outside watering for a couple of hours.  For young trees, I have 5 gallon plastic buckets with a 1/4  in hole drilled in the bottom.  It drains over an hour.  I fill the buckets, come by later and move it to other side of tree, fill again.  For vegetables, I just water with shower attachment on nozzle to soak.

This week Ive been weading, cleaning up flower border, and mulching with ground up bark.  Its becomjng low maintenance, mostly Spring bulbs, sedums, sempervivums, daylilies, and a few milkweeds.

Today I venture into the heart of Portland for an appointment at OHSU.  Not expecting anything dramatic.  I will take a sandwich and ride light rail to the clinic.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 28, 2017 at 5:43am

While walking yesterday, I found a snake.  Too bad it had been flattened by a car.  Don't think it would help my garden much.

Comment by Thomas Murray on June 26, 2017 at 11:35am


The reason I asked abt cancer and humans is because sharks never get cancer, and on the same page I either heard or read that cancer is exclusive to humans. Not knowing if this was an urban myth or a fact, thus my reason for asking. However, just today my research showed that sharks do get cancer, but naked mole rats do not. Even when scientist artificially inject cancerous cells into mole rats, mole rats were able to suppress the growth. Also one in 5 humans get cancer but olny 5% of elephants get cancer.


..."Known as p53, it is a tumor suppressor." ....

It was said the more animal have of this p53 gene, the less likely to develop cancer.


It seems that every person on earth have some relative that got cancer...either survived or passed away. My wife's father died from cancer (he was a smoker plus he came from coal polluting China), her cousin died from stomach cancer in Ireland. For some reason, Ireland has some of the highest cancer rates in the world....this was what I was told. I just skipped through the web site and it is frightening.


Of my own family, the 11 of us, only one brother got cancer. He was a heavy smoker since middle school. My cousin got cancer which was treatable.... she refused....it was as if she was thankful that she didn't have to find a way to kill herself.

I am going to stop this now because this group is abt gardening, not cancer. I am sorry for bringing this up on this forum.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 25, 2017 at 3:08pm

Randy, I know what you mean about weeding. I am a lazy lady and use every technique I can find to make it easier. 

I started watching this family because of their gardening techniques when there smallest child was very young and in diapers. The children grow so fast.

They converted a school bus and are on nationwide tour of permaculture gardens and farms. Justin Rhodes and his family work as a team and get lots of work done and have fun while they do it. 

His Permaculture Garden Needs ONLY 2 Days of Work;


To weed or not to weed, what would be Sepp's answer? RSS feed;

This isn't for gardens, but for farms, but I refer to it from time to time: 

Unnatural Selection: Why Encouraging Weeds May Be Good Farming (Video);

Practical Permaculture – The Art Of Weeds;

Q. This next one had me stumped; what is lucern? 

A.  lucerne (alfalfa hay) bales 

So, here is the site: 

No Dig Gardening;

Comment by Daniel W on June 25, 2017 at 2:12pm

Thomas I dont know what you mean by indigenous to humans.  If you mean, are we the only creatures to get cancer, the answer is no.  Lots of dogs and cats get cancers as well as other creatures.  Also, evidence of cancer has been found in remains of prehistoric people.  It is usually caused by a mutation in the DNA but some cancers are virus transmitted.  Tasmanian devils are almost extinct due to transmitted cancers, most cervical cancer is viral, kaposi sarcoma is viral, some throat cancers and others.

Kathy sorry you are injured too!  I was out watering all am, now inside with some ice on my leg.  Its not so bad today.  I just need to respect and be aware of limitations.

Over 100 F today.  Most of the wilted plants responded to their watering last night.  Some milkweed plants were top-killed but maybe will make branches below the dead part?  The tops were crispy!

Potato tops are dying down.  Collard greens looming good.  Garlic sending up scapes.


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