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Comment by Idaho Spud on August 10, 2017 at 6:50am

Attractive dahlia Bertold.  Love the color.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on August 9, 2017 at 7:23pm

It's a hat tip to Tor Johnson, one of the actors in Plan 9 from Outer Space. (wrongly purported to be The Worst Movie Ever Made). Inspired by the best film of the 90s, Tim Burton's extraordinary Ed Wood, Jr. [Most classic line: I'm Vampira; I don't have to blow some goddamn dentist to get a part!]

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 9, 2017 at 7:12pm

Bertold, your dahlia is outstanding, and what a beautiful room and view. 

May I ask you, respectfully, why do you have that grotesque avatar! You are such a handsome man, I would surely like to see your face instead of that ugly thing. 

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on August 9, 2017 at 5:13pm

My favorite dahlia this year.

Comment by kathy: ky on August 8, 2017 at 11:55pm
Joan I'm sorry that you tire easily but it does allow you time to post some very interesting things here. I enjoy reading all of them.
Comment by Joan Denoo on August 8, 2017 at 9:42pm

Daniel, your figs look delicious and what an accomplishment! Your skills pay off with good nourishment. I like the idea of putting your chicken tracker in garden spots that need work. I did not think of it myself, but from the various sites I watch each day. 

By the way, I went into the greenhouse for the first time since June 27. It is a jungle. I called my granddaughter to asked if she wanted tomatoes; there are bushels of them ready to be picked and they are extremely tasty. She just came to my room telling me she is on her way to pick a bushel full for her dinner tonight. She is the one with 5 kids. 

I only spent a half hour or so before my strength gave out.  I am on my way to bed now. 

Comment by kathy: ky on August 8, 2017 at 5:24pm
Joan, very interesting information about the chickens. I did put rough compost in the enclosure several times and the chickens cleaned it of everything. Unfortunately they took the good with the bad. All that was left was pure black dirt with some extra feathers and manure. Be I've been using it to places around the plants that need a boost. It makes very good fertilizer even though it's missing the tiny bugs that go after spider mites. But there are no weed seeds in it.
Comment by Joan Denoo on August 8, 2017 at 4:01pm
Comment by Joan Denoo on August 8, 2017 at 3:36pm

Well then, let's sing the praises of grasses and chamomile! At least they have roots in the ground and nourishment from the hens. According to permaculture, turn a problem into a solution! Use nature, don't fight it. 

Since the chickens are "destructive," use that destructive power to work for you.

1. Pile your compost in the center of the hen yard and let the chickens compost if for you 

2. If you have a place where you want to start vegetables, put an electric chicken fence around it, put the hens in there and throw their daily ration in the fenced area. Let the hens scavenge for the seeds and till the ground for you, or at least get the ground loosened up a bit. 

3. Figure out how much ground you need for the number of chickens you have, fence it with electric chicken fencing and let them do the work of eating and scratching. 

4. Do you have a bug/pest situation, turn your hens out on them. You may lose some vegetables or fruits, but it beats picking bugs and slugs. Again, use fencing to keep them where you want the chickens. 

If I were asking your question, I would want at least four plots for chickens so that I could get the seeds or plants started in all four, then rotate the chickens from plot to plot throughout the summer.

Electric chicken fencing could be used because it is light and easy to move. Also, it protects chickens from predators. 

Have you tried any of ground covers - Annual Ryegrass - Perennial Ryegrass - Buckwheat - Flax - Millet - Forage Peas - Red Clover - Alfalfa?

12 Chicken-Friendly Plants To Grow Next To Coops

Cover Crops In The Fall Garden: Winter Rye And Red Clover

Top Ten Plants for Chickens
"These easy plants are hands down my chickens’ favorites
Some I make a point of purchasing and some, Mother Nature provides at no cost. These are crops that anyone can grow, anywhere across this country, no matter your gardening zone."
I hope I haven't bored you with my imaginings. I would love to have a flock, but taking my health into consideration, I would have to depend on others doing what I can't. If I were 20 years younger ... 
Oh, by the way, plant nitrogen sequestering plants if you can. The chickens will add to the nitrogen, and the plant roots will go down very deep and draw water up from the lower levels.   
Comment by Joan Denoo on August 8, 2017 at 1:38pm

Thomas, I don't remember; let's hope it was green peas. I don't remember sweet peas, but what would a kid remember?

Thanks for that information, I will put it in chicken file. 


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