Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Barbara Livingston on September 12, 2015 at 11:51am

Daniel, and others with deer problems ... I am a member of a regional group, All Things Plant.  I recently read this solution to deer eating garden plants.  I have no idea if it really works, just thought I would post.

> "My hairdresser saves hair every week in a garbage bag for me. I go to the dollar store and find the strongest smelling "perfume" and spray that hair with it, letting it soak in. I give it a shake every so often. Sprinkle it in and around the plants in the beds. I haven't had any problems with it bothering the plants, and the deer don't like the smell. Maybe this will also work for someone else."

Comment by Randall Smith on September 12, 2015 at 7:26am

My yard and garden only received 0.15" of rain yesterday. Sad. However, the heat wave has been broken. Highs in the mid-60's this weekend.

As for the garden, I'm wondering why my Brussels sprouts plants have no sprouts(?). Big disappointment.

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 11, 2015 at 1:40pm
Comment by Joan Denoo on September 11, 2015 at 1:37pm

I am in Spokane this week to do a little more packing and sorting and gardening. When I walked into my jungle-garden to have breakfast this morning, the birds and squirrels seemed to recognize me. 

Spud, thank you for those excellent video leads. I have no doubts now about how to distribute my kitchen waste and not harm the chickens. I repeat your list here for my family and friends to see. 

Daniel, I am having more neuropathy and less feeling in my fingers. Have you had a similar experience. Both my chemo and G.P. increased my Rx but the advancement continues. I assume it is diabetes.

Thanks, Daniel and Kathy, for the composting and the chicken information. Michelle and I appreciate the help. We are newcomers to the art and craft and science of chickens. I appreciate any information that you can supply. 

I like the idea of trench composting. I walk the grounds of the cleared land at my mew home pulling weeds and putting them in an old coal shuttle that was my grandmother's. I dump the weeds in a heap. I will dig a hole in the sand next to it and rake the weeds into the trench compost. 

Kathy, it feels so right to have grandchildren around, even if for a day, week, or year. I am happy for you. I wonder why the Arizona vet hasn't seen heartworms in animals? Is it the water, food, or infection exposure? Thanks for sharing your composting information. 

Randy, you continue to have no rain? What a bummer! Rain ended our drought last week and we had downpours. Thank goodness, the forest fires raged out of control all over the Northwest. Our skies shine clear blue with puffy clouds wafting by. Our new hugelkulturs must have caught gallons of water. Laura even dug one by hand and filled it with the slash. The fire danger kept us all feeling like we sat on a cliff edge.

Everyone, thanks for all the happy responses to my new home and experiences there. Laura's family presents a beautiful example of what happiness derives from healthy communication, especially when it involves problems and conflicts. There is no sign of violent reactions now. There are times when something requires a strong cussing or kicking of tires, however, no violence against people or animals. They were a strongly conflicted family with many ugly scenes; that ended with learning tools of communication. 

As I stood in my garden in Spokane this morning doing my morning contemplation, I was able to see my garden friends, the fauna, and flora. I am able to say goodbye with peace and joy.There has been some deep emotional feeling emerge in this process. I will continue to return to close down this home and move to my new one with calm celebration.  



Comment by Joan Denoo on September 11, 2015 at 12:38pm

Two pop-up reminders today about my Spokane garden:

First Frost 2012 on garage roof 

First Frost 2014 on garage roof 

In my Newport garden, we had a nipping frost that touched my basil and zucchini plants a week or so ago. I forgot to set a reminder. 

Comment by Randall Smith on September 11, 2015 at 6:55am
Joan, it sounds as if "life is good", and the word "good" is putting it mildly. Your great grandchildren are very lucky.
We are desparate for rain around these parts. It's been 6 weeks since we've had any. Every time something looks promising, it peters out. This morning is one of those "cross your fingers" days.
Comment by k.h. ky on September 11, 2015 at 12:03am
Thanks Daniel. I compost in place in the poorest areas. Which is on every slope . And that's almost the entire place. I've found a lot of info on what not to feed the chickens. There's also a lot on what they can be fed but everything can't be listed. I read an interesting article on egg production and the small quantity of eggs hens laid when they subsisted on table scraps and what they could scratch from the ground. One hen would only lay about 90 per year.

Joan, it is good to hear from you and I'm happy you're settling into your new place.
Comment by Daniel W on September 10, 2015 at 10:28pm

I make a zillion mistakes on my ipad.  A stylus would be better but Steve Jobs hated them.  Years ago I had a Palm Pilot that used a stylus for input and it was incredibly better.  Ideology over practicality.

I compost several ways.  My chickens got most edible kitchen scraps.  Rinds, peels, spoiled stuff, coffee grounds, teabags, go into a rotating composter.  Sometimes I trench compost.  Dig a hole in the garden bed, cover with weeds or grass clippings, dig hole next to it, using the soil to cover the first hole, repeat.   No animals dig it up and composting in place seems to lead to more earthworms and richer soil.  Depends on how lazy I'm feeling.

Joan I'm glad you posted and are happy.  That makes me happy.

Comment by k.h. ky on September 10, 2015 at 8:44pm
I make so many mistakes on this little pad.
Comment by k.h. ky on September 10, 2015 at 8:42pm
Thanks Spud. I'll check out the one l missed.

Joan, l don't put cooked anything in the compost heaps. May be the humidity but couples of times my gdaughters have done it it soured the entire box.
I just found out my gson is moving black to ky for a better job. I doubt he will stay much longer than it takes to flesh out his résumé but that should be a couple years at least.
He told me his vet in az has never seen a case of heartworms in an animal so he can't get his dogs preventative there.
No mosquitoes must be awesome.

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