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Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Sequester water

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel W on Saturday. 1 Reply

Tomato Growing Topics & Tips

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by k.h. ky Jun 20. 3 Replies

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Comment by Joan Denoo on November 7, 2016 at 10:39pm

Daniel, I enjoyed the avocado & ghosts of evolution videos and story of the female Gingko biloba 

Ginkgo Trees Stink Up Cities When Seeds Fall

"[T]he seeds smell something like a mix of vomit and putrid cheese."

"When young, female ginkgos—the seed-producing kind—are impossible to tell apart from male trees. It takes a female at least 25 years to produce its first seeds, and even then, only females planted within close vicinity of a male end up doing so."

"Ginkgo seeds smell horrible, and their toxic flesh may cause rashes. But every fall, they are at the center of a citywide scavenger hunt.

“We eat them,” Wang Tong said as she looked for fallen seeds under several ginkgo trees."

"At over 200 million years old, they survived whatever killed the dinosaurs, and some of them withstood the atomic bomb blast that struck Hiroshima in 1945.

“They leafed out again the following spring,” said Peter Crane, dean of Yale University’s school of forestry and author of a recent book on the ginkgo tree"

This is, indeed, a remarkable tree. I tried repeatedly to get one started in my west garden and they just did not like the soil or the air or the neighbors. Happily, you were able to get them to grow, Daniel. Have any of them turned out to be female?

The photo of your Persimmons look so festive. 

Comment by Randall Smith on November 5, 2016 at 7:13am
'Tis the season--for persimmons and pears. That's about the only fruits I eat now--with added raspberries.
I've had so many "reds", I've made 9 gallons of raspberry wine!
Comment by k.h. ky on November 4, 2016 at 3:46pm
Bertold, the cactus is beautiful. I put mine outside, in heavy shade and leave it until the first frost is forecasted. I brought it in about two weeks ago and the blooms are just starting to open.

Daniel, what's a hyacinthiode? Like a Hyacinth? I'm not familiar.
Comment by Idaho Spud on November 4, 2016 at 2:04pm

Daniel, interesting videos about Avocados and Ginko.

I used to like Bananas and Avocados a lot, but my old tasting apparatus tells me they are rather bland now, so I don't eat them anymore.  But I'm going to try some Avocados again because that video said they're a natural laxative, and I could use anything that gets things moving.  Especially naturally.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on November 4, 2016 at 1:02pm

Persimmons are really tasty if you freeze them first too.

Comment by Daniel W on November 4, 2016 at 11:44am

Randy, the mild astringency of bananas puts me off a bit.  The smalll Vietnamese bananas are even more so.  Not a problem since I'm not growing them.  I do love guacamole or avocado sandwiches.  Also that they are something favored by massive ground sloths.

Persimmons are also thought to be an evolutionary anachronism, whose dispersal mammal long disappeared before entry of the more omnivorous Homo sapiens.   Here is a plate from my Asian / American hybrid persimmon tree.  The first plate of fully ripe persimmons ever from my home orchard.  So tasty!  Slice in half and eat the jelly-like contents with a spoon.

Comment by Randall Smith on November 4, 2016 at 7:38am

While I enjoy 99% of most foods, avocados are in the 1% I don't. Taste and texture repulse me. And I know they're a very healthy food. For what it's worth, I'm not a big fan of bananas, either--for the same reason.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on November 3, 2016 at 6:51pm

Interesting video on avocados - I'm definitely a big fan.

Comment by Daniel W on November 3, 2016 at 6:39pm

Joan, in this area, Hyancinthoides are pretty invasive.  People complain that they take over their yards.  I've been digging big clumps of them from the Vancouver yard, and planting them in the Battleground yard.  Like you, I think they really pretty.

I have had some patches persist and multiply.  They seem to survive where the soil is almost impenetrable due to underlying gravel or roots.  That's why I think underground voles are eating the ones in softer soils.

Here's an interesting video about fruits.  A lot of the big fruits that we like are considered evolutionary anachronisms.  They evolved to be eaten by megafauna that don't exist now.  After their herbivorous benefactors went extinct, kind of puttered along until humans came along and took an liking to them.  Examples include avocados, papayas, pawpaws, and quite a number of others.

another video on the same topic.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 2, 2016 at 10:02pm

Hyacinthoides are considered an invasive weed? Jeez, they are so pretty. Yes, they do fill in space that other plants would like to grow into, but just pull up a clump of them and throw them on top of the soil that needs a little color and before you know it, a field of blue springs up. After a while, there is nothing left but blue; I like blue. Such is gardening. 

 

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