Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

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Discussion Forum

DIY Green House and a Chicken Coop?

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Jul 22. 2 Replies

Cover crops: Gabe Brown

Started by Joan Denoo Jul 19. 0 Replies

Geodesic Dome Greenhouses

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 17. 1 Reply

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Comment by Daniel W on February 12, 2017 at 9:50pm

Randy with acid soil, ashes or lime are verboten, as you wisely observe.  Do you ever check the pH?  Have the years of gardening, watering, and acid rain, lowered the pH?

Supposedly the maritime Pacific NW soil is so acidic due to eons of rain, leaching out the alkaline minerals.  I dont know if I can see benefit from my adding ashes or lime, but I really saw an accelleration of growth ftom peecycling.  That can add sodium, so if your soil has high salinity, that should be taken into account.  Mine is very low salinity.

Today I planted chill tolerant lettuce, mesclun, and radishes.  Might be jumping the gun.  Those went into a raised bed constructed last year from cement blocks.  It really warns the soil.  Tomorrow's plan is to plant peas, snowpeas, and favas.  Those can take to chill too.

I think I buried mg soil thermometer somewhere.  What a space cadet.

Comment by Randall Smith on February 10, 2017 at 7:30am

I've mentioned it before, but my garden soil is just the opposite of yours, Daniel. It's got a winter cover of pine needles. I never spread ashes on mine. I need to start saving urine again. 

Comment by Daniel W on February 9, 2017 at 9:58am

sorry for all of tge typos.  big fingers on little keypad.

Comment by Daniel W on February 9, 2017 at 9:57am

Joan, I hope the weather lets up soon!  I would love to see you out in the garden beds!

I completed ckearing the be blackberry thicket.  I think I started that about Dec 2014 but didnt work on it summer or fall.  Most will be pkanted with grass seed, I buy the cheapest I can find and mix in clover seeds.  Blackberries will continue growing from roots and crowns, buy mowing the grass repeatedly will kill them off for good. 

I also bought some phlox roots, ridbeckia roots, and peonies to plant at the woods edge.  So far, my experience has been that deer, rabbits, and voles dont eat peonies or rudbeckia.  I dont know about the phlox.

Today I will spread wood ashes on the vegetable garden.  Wood ashes are highest in Calcium, then Potassium, then other major and minor essential minerals, and highly alkaline.  By anslysis, my soil is vety acidic - pH 5.3, very calcium deficient, borderline magnesium deficient, but high in potassium.  I read that I can apply about 5 pounds per 3 square feet but will use about half that, for vegetable beds and around trees.  Just not around where potatoes will be grown this yeat, because fresh ashes or lime can promote potato scab.  I already applied lime to some beds, no ashes will go to those locations.

Comment by Idaho Spud on February 8, 2017 at 10:26am

Randall, my dad did that too, but I don't think he was being crafty.  I think he liked them.  Besides butter and salt, he also used pepper, so that's how I eat them.

They do taste good fresh and crisp from the oven.

Comment by Randall Smith on February 8, 2017 at 7:38am

My dad taught us kids to remove the potatoe's peel, add butter and salt, and eat. He made it seem it was a special treat just to get us to eat the skin. Pretty crafty.

I'm getting pretty antsy to get out in the garden. It looks so bleak right now.

Comment by Idaho Spud on February 7, 2017 at 11:31am

Joan, I feel the same as Daniel.  I hope you're very careful on that ice.

Comment by Idaho Spud on February 7, 2017 at 11:30am

Daniel, I read the article you pointed to and Wikipedia on the subject, and don't understand it either.  But it is amazing how plants do it.

Comment by Daniel W on February 7, 2017 at 10:22am

A historic experiment, attempting to explain who plants lift water from roots into tops, sometimes hundreds of feet.  The key appeared to be capillary action.  I still don't understand it.  Some have such force that pruning leafless stems causes dripping for days.  Grapes and figs do that.

Comment by Daniel W on February 7, 2017 at 10:20am

Joan, this is the part of year when Spring seems so much needed, but nature has its own pace.  Be careful on that ice!  No fractures, please.

Spud, I eat the skin too.  It's one reason I grow my own, since potatoes are too cheap to grow them for economic reasons.  I like that their skin was touched only by my own soil.  I do wash thoroughly, but who knows what they absorb.  I got some seed potatoes from Home Depot for red skin potatoes, and some Yukon Gold, but still awaiting whomever might have them for russsets.  Too early to start them, but the time is coming soon to get the garden bed ready.  I want to turn over the leaf-mulched soil and give it a chance to decompose before planting.

Today looks tolerable.  Will I be out clearing blackberry thickets again?  Will the be the end of that patch?  Getting close.  There are also a few fallen Douglas hawthorn trees in that patch to remove for cutting into wood-stove sized logs.


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