Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Comment by Idaho Spud on May 12, 2017 at 7:23am

Those traps I use do startle me a little when they go off, but not much.  Perhaps I've gotten used to them.  They don't startle me as much as the pressure packed cylinders containing dinner rolls, when hitting them on the edge of something to pop them open. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 12, 2017 at 7:18am

Well, I was wrong.  It appears you country folks have many more critters in your houses than I do.  It makes sense.  If you have more outside, more will get in.

Comment by Randall Smith on May 12, 2017 at 7:11am

Spud: Yes, those are the Intruder traps I use. So easy and effective. Setting those Victors always scared me if they went off!

Speaking of possums (Daniel), I saw one amble across my yard yest. And a month or so ago, the odor of a dead one in my garage led to the discovery of a possum in one of my rain barrels. He got in and couldn't get out. By the way, they love persimmons. So be on the watch.

Comment by Daniel W on May 11, 2017 at 10:03am

Randy and Spud, mice and ants are part of my country living too.  I hate to admit it, but I gave in and started using poisoned baits in containers that the mouse has to enter through a maze, so other animals can't get it.  I hate doing that because I hope the mouse doesn't leave a poisoned corpse that might harm predators, but my place was full of mice.  I wound up burning a cheap chest of drawers that was filled with mouse nest and feces.  My pantry has food on stainless steel shelves, that I hope mice can't reach but I still use the baits.  We have several fat feral cats that prowl my 2 acres, and the neighbors properties, maybe too many.  I put out a little food for them.  Yesterday I forgot the door was open, and came into the house to discover a cat running around.  I also but up a big nesting box for barn owls, but so far no occupants.  I hear them hooting sometimes.  With rabbits, moles, voles, mice, I think there is a lot of potential food for predators.  Last week I was raking through and flattening the piles of blackberry brambles to help them degrade faster, and a possum emerged.  I've used ant baits too.  They seem less toxic because they are so much smaller, and they work very well.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 11, 2017 at 8:42am

Randy, your story of mice eating your sweet potatoes reminded me:  When I first decided mice were in the house, I started checking all my Idaho Russets and Yukon gold potatoes that I store in a dark corner of my basement on the cement floor.  Not one little nibble has been taken out of any of them.  I guess mice like seeds and sweet things, not starchy potatoes.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 11, 2017 at 8:21am

Here are the Tomcat traps that I had good results with.  I think the sensitivity is due to the plastic holding the wire having less friction than a metal piece holding the wire, like the Victor ones have.  By the way, while looking on Amazon just now, I found some Victor traps that have the plastic, but they have a lower rating than the Tomcats.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 11, 2017 at 8:12am

I looked-up the Intruder mouse traps on Amazon.  I may purchase a few to try.  Are these the kind you use?

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 11, 2017 at 8:06am

I have 10 of these radar dogs for burglar alarms, which covers all the doors and windows in my house.  They send-out radar pulses and detect movement from analyzing return pulses.  Most are on the floor and bark when a person or mouse goes in front of them.

Comment by Randall Smith on May 11, 2017 at 7:16am

Good story, Spud! My favorite mouse trap is by Intruder, called "the better mousetrap". I always hated setting those Victors (not familiar with Tomcat). By the way, how do your mice set off a burglar alarm? I don't see the relationship.

I had a mouse eating on my sweet potatoes. Caught him with peanut butter.

Yesterday, I decided to clean out a bird house which smelled. 3 mice, maybe 4, jumped out, which startled me! I hope they didn't run into my house.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 10, 2017 at 9:27am

Ants and flies, and mice.  Oh my!

I don't have as many pests that visit my garden as most of you, but probably have nearly as many in my house.

I hate those 3 critters in my house.  

I do have a high voltage fly zapper, although I need to put it back together.

I'm constantly fighting ants.  I may have told this before, but when I put down a glue board where they were getting into my bedroom, I saw an amazing thing.  After a day or two, several ants were stuck on it, but one day I looked and they were all gone.  Looking closer, I saw sand particle trails to where each ant used to be stuck.

25 years ago, when I first moved into this house, there were mice here because the house had been vacant for years.  I got rid of them, and have seen no sign of any until a few days ago, when I started hearing my burglar alarms going off several times a day & night.  I couldn't figure out what was triggering them, but after a couple of days, I started noticing mouse feces everywhere.  Yikes!

I immediately went to the store and purchased a bunch of Victor mouse traps, packed the trigger with peanut butter, and waited. The next morning, I checked and found none of the traps had been triggered, but the peanut butter had disappeared, even from inside the small crevices.

I was sure the mousy tongues couldn't reach into those tiny crevices, so was puzzled for a while.  Then I noticed one trap still had peanut butter on it and had ants going coming & going to it, so I figured ants must have eaten all the bait from all the other traps.  After thinking it over, wondering how ants could find and eat all the peanut butter in all the traps overnight, still hearing my alarms going off, as well as finding an old glue board gnawed part way, I changed my mind and figured those mouse tongues were more dexturous than I thought.  

I went to town again, and purchase several other kinds of traps made by the Tomcat company.  I used the Tomcat wooden traps similar to the Victor ones, and the next morning, 2 mice were dead in those traps.  Some of the small holes in the trigger had been cleared of peanut butter.  Amazing.

Well, long story longer yet, it's been 2 days since those 2 mice were eliminated, no more peanut butter has disappeared, and no more mice were killed.

From all the feces I saw, I figured I had a huge community of mice in my house, but it now seems almost certain it was all from only 2 mice!

About the 2 brands of traps, the Victor traps just are not sensitive enough.  All the peanut butter was eaten, but not one trap was triggered.  The Tomcat traps are much more sensitive.  None of the peanut butter was eaten except a little from the 2 traps that had a mouse dead in each one.  So, no more Victor brand for me.  It's Tomcat all the way.


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