Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Comment by Daniel W on October 8, 2017 at 9:31am

The past couple of days, I've been reading "The hidden Life of Trees" by Peter Wohlleben.   The author describes ways that trees communicate, by chemical messages, electrical impulses, and vibration, and through their fungal networks, and the responses of neighboring trees those messages.  For example, some trees produce substances in response to insect damage, and other trees produce toxins in response to those substances.  He tends to be anthropomorphic, and I'm not sure I believe everything, but I think there is some element of truth in all of that.  

Randy, most people have a narrow range of what they like, and are reluctant to explore other things. Around here, there is a large Asian community, with a lot more familiarity with the Asian persimmon - which is much larger, and some varieties are not astringent, so they can be eaten firm like apples.  Don't try that with the American persimmon - before they are ripe, it's like eating talc.  Then they ripen and they are like, I don't know, a spiced apricot nectar?

Joan, those persimmons are like that right off the tree1  Not cooked, just let it soften and slice it.  When i was small in rural Illinois, our neighbor had a persimmon tree.  My dad didn't like them, and that rubbed off on me.  It wasn't until I was exploring different fruits that I finally tried them. 

I imagine Colorado winter will be similar to Eastern WA winter?  Some places there are really beautiful, trees and mountains.  I hope your town is like that.

Yesterday I did some work with fencing.   This winter's goals are to improve protection from deer, for some trees and vegetables, but also make it less work for the future. 

Patricia, I imagine your BC winter is similar to my WA State winter, but maybe a little colder and shorter days.  Glad the smoky season is over - I hope!

Here is one of the chestnut trees that I planted last winter.  I gave  it a better deer fence.  If next year's growth is like this year, it shouldn't need fencing after that, because they don't browse above 6 feet high.

The cages are not attractive, but without them, there would be no tree there at all. 

Joan, I don't know about my energy.  I just putter until I get to tired, then I stop.  Gradually, things seem to happen.  Right now, there are too many joint aches to do much, so I'm sitting by the woodstove watching the fire, and spending virtual time with my friends here in this group :-)

Comment by Randall Smith on October 8, 2017 at 7:07am

Nice looking persimmon, Daniel! I haven't yet checked my 'possum trap this morning. I know there are a lot of persimmons on the ground after a windy and, later, stormy day yest.

I gave a bunch of persimmons to my daughter to sell at their Saturday farmers market (on the farm). When I asked her later if she sold any, she said "I didn't even put them out. They were soft and mushy." I told her that's the way they're suppose to be!

I can't find anybody else in my family that likes them. I don't think they like the soft (mushy)texture. I mean they taste like candy. I'm sure they are bad for me--so full of sugar.

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 8, 2017 at 1:15am

My comment doesn' read the way I intended.

"Next week forecast HI 40°, Lo 30°" 

Next week's forecast is in the hi 40°s daily and in the low 30°s nightly temperatures. 


Comment by Joan Denoo on October 8, 2017 at 12:12am

In Newport, Today's Hi 59°F, expected low 42°.

Next week forecast HI 40°, Lo 30°.

Daniel, you have done a lot of work in your garden since your diagnosis; I am impressed with how much energy you have. Your baked persimmon looks delicious, did you put seasoning on it before you baked it? 

Good luck with your raccoon management, Randy and Daniel. While fun to watch, they live to steal vegetables and fruits. 

Spud, your plan to turning off the water sounds like a good one. Do you have to blow your pipes and hoses before hard frosts arrive? 

Comment by Patricia on October 7, 2017 at 10:51pm

Yes, I like that look/sound as well. Something de-stressing about it.

Comment by Daniel W on October 7, 2017 at 10:43pm

Patricia, it is.  Although, in this climate, I like to call it a rain room.  It is soothing to watch the rain pour down on the glass.  It's surprisingly bright, even in the rain.

Comment by Patricia on October 7, 2017 at 10:18pm

It would seem the sunroom would be a great improvement for winter's dull & drab.

Comment by Daniel W on October 7, 2017 at 10:13pm

The irony about that sunroom, is I had it built after my cancer diagnosis. It looked like surgery and medications would have only a temporary benefit. I wanted a sunny pleasant place where I could have green things growing, to spend my final days.  It turned out the treatments improved a lot, and here I still am, but now with a sunroom that we use mostly for the plants in the winter.

Spud, that's a lot of rain.  You also reminded me, I need to work on our winterizing, including the well head which supposedly had a heating cable, but when I looked, it isn't plugged into anything.

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 7, 2017 at 6:01pm

I too envy Daniel's greenhouse.

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 7, 2017 at 5:59pm

It wouldn't surprise me if that possum found it's way back those 2 miles.  

It's been raining here nicely.  Two weeks ago, it rained 1.8 inch in one day.  I still haven't shut my outside water off because I may need to water my pear tree before winter comes.  I have a heavy piece of plywood on hinges over the outside water spigots, so It shouldn't freeze until there are several days of low temps in the high 20s.  When that's forecast, I'll water the pear tree, shut the water off in the basement, and put insulation around the spigot.


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