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Comment by Idaho Spud on June 12, 2017 at 7:59am

I went to Ty Ty and tried to order a couple of Pecan trees that were going for $25 after the 75% discount, but they said $60 is the minimum order.  I don't have room for anymore trees, or even as many berry bushes that I'd have to buy.  

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 12, 2017 at 7:20am

Daniel, thanks for the Blackberry tip tip.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 12, 2017 at 7:11am

Randy, good deal on those nut trees.  Let me know how they do.  

My Avocado is looking very sad.  Perhaps I was too vigorous in washing the potting soil from the roots.  Perhaps it doesn't like the soil I planted it in, that is retaining more water than I thought it would.  Perhaps it didn't like the several days of 90°F temperatures.  Perhaps a combination.

Starting 2 days ago, the temperatures are in the 40s at night, and 60s in the day.  The weather this year is more variable than usual.  Early this spring, there was 3 cycles of warm weather, then freezing weather.  That killed every Apricot blossom, so no Apricots for me this year.  It also killed the leaves of my first Asparagus plants.

However, my 2-year-old blackberry and 2-year old raspberry plants of two kinds are doing great.

Comment by Randall Smith on June 12, 2017 at 6:25am

Thanks for the "soak trees in a bucket of water before planting" tip. In my haste, I've failed to do that. I'll further describe the trees I ordered once I receive them.

90 degree temps are upon us with gale force winds. It certainly dries out the soil. I have to water flowers and veggies every day. I'm not mowing the yard, shaggy as it looks, to retain soil moisture.

Comment by Daniel W on June 11, 2017 at 10:33pm

Joan, we have had a chilly rainy week.  The day today warmed up nicely, so I'm glad for that.

I bet all that green is a beautiful sight.  I hope there aren't fires this summer or fall, but at least at the moment, the beauty is there.

I find the thermometer very helpful.  I check it all the time, for seed planting, and to compare raised beds and containers with the soil and ambient temperatures.

I learned something new this week about blackberries - the horticultural type,  not the weeds.  The growing tip should be snapped off when they are 3 or so feet tall.  That removes the inhibitory auxin signal from the growing tip, and allows branches to grow for stockier, stronger, shorter canes and much better yield.  So I went out and snapped mine off.  Only two are that far along, but it's fun to learn and experiment. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 11, 2017 at 10:06pm

I just received a soil thermometer through Amazon. It seems like a good expense, given the strange weather patterns. Thanks for the information on soil temperatures. 

Daniel, did you have a cold spell come through your area? We still have to wear sweaters outside. I wish Cary were here to read the weather maps for me. Guess I will have to learn how. 

The forest is as green as the hills of Ireland. It makes the fire district nervous seeing all the growing grasses and wild plant life. More green in spring foretells more fires in autumn.

Comment by Daniel W on June 11, 2017 at 8:56pm

Joan, one of these days, you'll figure out the photos!  Meanwhile, words sometimes speak more than pictures do. 

Randy that's great news from TyTy!  I wish you good luck with your tree planting!  Be sure to give them a good soak in a bucket for a few hours before planting.  They might be stressed from storage.

Definitely if the soil is cold and wet, then warm weather plants like corn and bean seeds won't grow.  Optimum soil temperature for germinating beans is 70F to 80F.  Below that, they take much longer and below 60F they might rot.  Soil temp should be 65F to 85F for sweet corn, and it will not germinate below 55F. 

I use a soil thermometer.  I think I buried the last one while digging, so I bought a new one via Amazon. 

Another factor is birds.  Birds dig up and eat, corn seeds and bean seeds.  They view your planting practices as a special bird "easter egg" hunt.  I cover the seed area with chicken wire or plastic netting that they can't dig through, until the seedlings emerge.  The old saying recommends planting 4 seeds for each one that you want:  "Four seeds in a row, one for the rook, one for the crow, one will wither and one will grow."    There is a similar saying about growing tobacco:  "Some for you, some for I, some for the devil, some for the fly."

Another saying about corn, I don't think it's true, at least around here:  "Corn should be planted when the dogwoods are in bloom and the poplar leaves are as big as squirrel ears."

Sweet corn seeds only keep a year or two.  That is because the newer varieties of sweet corn keep their sugar longer, instead of turning it into storage starches.  That's why the seeds are so wrinkly.  I decided not to keep my corn seeds more than a year.  Bean seeds last many years.

I just planted some sweet corn today, variety "Bodaceous", which I bought last winter on close out.  I realize I just said that it's better to use new seeds, but I'm learning.  I intend to plant a final crop of sweet corn in another week, a later maturing variety.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 11, 2017 at 6:45pm

I am unable to send a photo showing the progress of the greenhouse. I would pull my hair out if it would help! Frustration! Guess I will go play in the greenhouse, take another photo, and see if I can send it. 

Daniel, I love your story of the Linden tree!  You deserve to be very proud. Tender, loving, caring, energies heal many things. 

Randy, replanting seems to be the new normal. I've planted and replanted, and still the cold weather leaves rotted corn and bean seeds. I can get both to grow in the greenhouse. 

Comment by Randall Smith on June 11, 2017 at 12:48pm

I was shocked to get an email from the Georgia nursery (TyTy) where I bought some trees saying they're going out of business! They're offering 75% off, so I ordered 13 nut trees for $60.44 (plus shipping), just barely over the $60 minimum purchase necessary. Wow! That more than makes up for my dead pecan tree (stick in the ground), plus two others that didn't make it (two years ago).

Even if some of the 13 don't survive, it's still worth it. I'll soon find out. I bought more pecans (2 varieties), a couple of English walnuts, and a filbert.

Either rabbits or high wind knocked over one of my nightly plant cover cans and ate another canteloupe. That makes 3. Aggravating. 

I'm planting more sweet corn today--my 4th attempt. I'm not sure why they're not germinating. I do know farmers have had to replant field corn this spring. Must be the crazy weather. We need rain!!

Comment by Daniel W on June 10, 2017 at 11:27pm

Randy, some of my bad luck with strawberries is, I let the bed go weedy and haven't watered or fertilized it in a year.

Still raining every day. 

Today I dug up a viburnum (snowball bush) offset that grew from a much larger snowball bush that I planted in summer 2012.  Even this start is bigger than the bush I started out with.  The new start was given a home along the property edge, and given plenty of water.

I cut down 2 dead and trees.  Not huge, about 1 foot diameter trunks and maybe 30 feet tall.  I cut them into firewood and stacked them.  They probably didn't have to be cut right now, but I was concerned they might fall down on their own, and damage the chestnut trees that I planted last winter.  Or injure someone.

With all of the rain, it was time for a slug hunt.  The ducks got about 20 big juicy slugs.

Here is a  European linden tree that I planted Sept 2012.  It was a close-out at Home Depot, dried out and rootbound.  I removed as much of the container soil as I could, untangled or cut off tangled roots, soaked in water and planted in the native soil.  With frequent watering that summer and fall, and minimal watering and fertilizer in subsequent years, it has grown into a nice specimen.   Amazing it can go from a stick in a pot, to a nice tree, in a few years.

Some of the tomato plants that I started from seeds in mid April.

 

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