Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Daniel W on February 17, 2015 at 8:53am

Create a certified Backyard Wildlife Habitat.

In Washington State, where I live, Backyard Nature Habitat can be certified and a sign installed, to inform others.  Pesky neighbors, who might object to the lessor degree of fastidious neat lawn and lack of backyard chemical warfare, might read the sign and gradually be more accepting, and the next generation better informed.

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Separate topic, but someone interested in one might be interested in the other....

For pest control, there is a movement to install barn owl boxes.

From UK, some instructions.  In the US, you can buy - expensive - Barn Owl Boxes for breeding, to replace lost habitat.  You can build your own, or have a family handy-person or neighbor do it for you.   Barn owls kill and eat up to 2,000 mice, rats, voles, rabbits per pair of owls, per year.  Missouri- "Barn owls are considered to be our most beneficial owl, owing to their appetite for animal pests. One once was observed delivering 16 mice, three gophers, a rat and a squirrel to a nest within 25 minutes. An endangered species in Missouri, the barn owl is found worldwide, nesting almost totally in buildings in the Old World and in hollow trees and burrows in much of the western United States."

Map below is worldwide distribution for barn owls.  Images from wikipedia.

Comment by Randall Smith on February 15, 2015 at 7:42am

Why thank you so much, Joan! I'll pass that on to them today. I have forgotten what all is on their website. I think I've mentioned the land has been in our family for 150 years--once over 700 acres, now shrunk to 120 owned by me (us). When my SIL began taking over the sustainable farming part of it (about half), he INSISTED on naming the farm after my mother's maiden name (Silverthorn). I tried to talk him out of it, but to no avail. How fortunate I am that my daughter choose him 10 years ago. As I have said over and over, "Who would have thunk it?" (the outcome). 

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 15, 2015 at 2:06am

Silverthorn Farm
ust received my first post from Silverthorn Farm. Your kids have a wonderful farm and Facebook page, Randy. 

Comment by Daniel W on February 12, 2015 at 10:56am


It is true the temperate earthworms in the US are considered exotic species.  They are considered very good for the garden, beneficial to the point where some gardeners consider them a great blessing. 

For native forests, earthworms are considered disruptive.  But I think that genie is out of the bottle.  They are ubiquitous, the ecosystem is already highly changed, the climate is changing. 

It's said that on rich pasture, the biomass of earthworms below the soil is greater than the biomass of cattle above the soil.  I don't know if that is true.

I like my earthworms very much.

Comment by Randall Smith on February 12, 2015 at 8:41am

And I understand that nightcrawlers, i.e., earthworms, were imported from Europe to the U.S. For you that googled it, true?

Hope you can get your energy back, Daniel. Do you still have chickens? If so, do you eat them? I know you're a vegetarian, but....

Comment by Daniel W on February 12, 2015 at 8:25am
Lumbricus terrestris. Thanks for asking, Chris. Big juicy worms that come up at night to feed. I googled on Wikipedia, learned a few things about worms.
Comment by Plinius on February 12, 2015 at 1:24am

Thanks Joan!

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 12, 2015 at 1:15am

Chris try earthworm, nightcrawler. This is what I got. 

Comment by Plinius on February 12, 2015 at 12:52am

Daniel, what is a nightcrawler? The only thing that comes up when I google is a movie.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on February 11, 2015 at 9:58am

Daniel, "solarize" that's the word! Thanks. Why make work for myself, eh?  If it works, don't fix it - I'll add a bit of compost and call it good. And this year I'll make a note of what I plant in each pot and next year rotate. Sorry you don't have the energy to do what you so love in the way you want - glad you are able to do some things though. Your situation makes me realize how grateful I am that I'm able to do what I do - thanks to you and your inspiration!  ((((Daniel))))

Chris, it's nice you have someone to help you - and I'll bet she is glad to have you as a sitter.  I've discovered it is alot like the only way to eat an elephant - one small bite at a time. Otherwise I completely overwhelm myself with all my plans.

Today I actually get to lay out my spiral herb garden - or at least my version of one. :)   Plant on!


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