Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 179
Latest Activity: on Friday

Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

My Farm Failures - Revealed Justin Rhodes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 15. 2 Replies

An Herb Garden for Chickens

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel W Aug 1. 1 Reply

Permaculture Chickens Justin Rhodes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 30. 1 Reply

Using Chickens in a Food Forest

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by k.h. ky Jul 17. 15 Replies

Crisis garden annuals

Started by Larry Martin. Last reply by Larry Martin Jul 11. 4 Replies

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Comment by Joan Denoo on June 20, 2015 at 2:16pm

Barbara, I do too know what I would use on corn crops, Pyola® Insect Spray from Gardens Alive. 

I started using Gardens Alive products before my kids graduated from high school. After they all moved out I changed my vegetable garden into an ornamental one. I will be returning to that product.  

Pyola® Insect Spray

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 20, 2015 at 2:09pm

Barbara, the years I lived in Texas, all each location, I planted sweet corn. It did very well, except for those damned insects and fungi! I used pounds of Sevin in order to get a decent yield. 

Well, now I know that Sevin is not a safe chemical. Every gardener had sacks and containers full of the stuff in their sheds.. 

Sevin Dust is NOT Your Garden Friend!

I don't know what I would use now. I haven't grown corn in at least 20 years. If you find out, let me know because I will be growing vegetables again when I move to Newport. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 20, 2015 at 1:42pm

I've planted peas, squash, and melons in containers, then into the garden when they get a few inches tall.  They seem to grow OK.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 20, 2015 at 1:39pm

Joan, I've seen three versions of The Secret Garden, own the one I like the most, and watch it every year.  I plan on watching all versions.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 20, 2015 at 1:38pm

Daniel, nice picture.  I see ladybugs in my garden every once in a while, and it makes my day.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 20, 2015 at 1:34pm

Barbara, your lemon cucumbers sound healthy.  I've loved cucumbers most of my life, but stopped growing them a few years ago because they're tasteless to me now.  If I hear of a strong-flavored kind, I'll try it.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 20, 2015 at 12:50pm

Daniel, it looks like your work force of aphids and butterflies have their summer all planned out. 

How happy I would feel if I could find even one ladybug on any of my plants. I haven't used insecticides, so I don't know why they didn't get to work this spring. 

I am harvesting garlic today; one of my favorite tasks. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 20, 2015 at 12:47pm

Randy, what is your USDA plant zone? If I read

If I read the catalogs correctly, nectarines do not do well in Spokane, or Newport, WA.  With the changing in weather and temperatures being so unpredictable, I don't know if plant zones will matter much anymore. I enjoy the taste of nectarines and buy them at the grocery store all the time. I am sure having them in your yard and picking and eating them fresh can't be topped. 

The killer for me is the late frosts that kill the blossoms. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 20, 2015 at 12:29pm

Barbara, your lovely lemon cucumber looks refreshing for these hot days. 

It is hard for me to imagine rain in your part of the country after living for several years at William Beaumont Army Medical Center in El Paso, Darnall Army Medical Center at Ft. Hood and Brooke Army Medical Center at Ft. Sam Houston. 

When I think of those homes, the sweat comes out on my brow.

Some plants just don't like to be transplanted, i.e.

"Root crops (carrots, beetsturnips, etc.) are not suited to transplants as the process will damage the root. Corncucurbits (squashcucumbersmelons) and beans/peas don't like to be transplanted but can be with care."



William Beaumont Army Medical Center


Comment by Joan Denoo on June 20, 2015 at 12:19pm

Chris, I love the thoughts of your "Secret Garden". The charming film from Hallmark in 1987 tells a story of a Secret Garden. You might have a story in your special garden. 


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