Godless in the garden

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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  

 

Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits

Folklore.

Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.
Squirrels.

Synergies.

Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Compact Bed Geometry

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on Wednesday. 0 Replies

Soil: regenerative land management

Started by Joan Denoo on Tuesday. 0 Replies

Permaculture

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 21. 3 Replies

Mullein

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius Jul 18. 1 Reply

To cure your garlic

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Jul 16. 1 Reply

Harvesting vegetables

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Jul 9. 4 Replies

The Hen in Winter

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by k.h. ky Jul 4. 10 Replies

Fruit Pests: Apricot

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jun 28. 3 Replies

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Daniel W on November 16, 2014 at 8:23am

Kind of glad  we are in Winter now.  I need the rest.  And a chance to re-do some of the techniques.  Nothing is going to dry out and die in the winter.  Weeds will grow but not as fast. 

Projects -

Screened frames for 2 or 3 raised beds.  Deer/rabbit protection.  Finally got it through my thick head, protection from varmints is equal to soil, water, weeding, at this country place.  These will be simple, framework made from 2X2s, with handles to make them easy to open.

Also, simpler fencing system for some of the fruit trees, same issue.

Start a lower maintenance system for walks between raised beds - I'm thinking a layer of plastic with wood chip cover.  The plastic would be entirely re-used, from 50# dog food bags - tough plastic - and 50# chicken food bags. 

We also need a new front entrance walk.  The old one is too narrow.  It will be paving blocks on a gravel/sand bed.

Last, I want to try a different type of bee hive, and source bees from a different type.  Half of mine disappeared, after flourishing all summer, and the other half did not flourish, although they are still there.  I found a source of Russian / Carniolan hybrid bees, considered hardier, and will change hive type.  Normally I would build the hive but I am too tired, so pre-ordered and assembled one.

There is the whole winter to do those.

Patricia that green roof is a wonderful thing.  There should be thousands more of those.  Millions.  And with a beehive on top!

Randy, the up side is that should kill off a lot of bad insects?  I think?  Or is there a good side?  We had an early hard freeze, before all of the leaves abscissed - Spring will tell if that is an issue.

Fig trees next to each other.  One remained unfazed by freeze. The leaves on the other were severely affected.  Interesting difference.  They are different varieties.

To the "farm kids" - I grew up in a small town in Illinois.  Our family's farm was 20 miles out, across the Mississippi in Missouri.  During the week we lived in town, and on the weekends we were on the farm.  It wasn't required for our living, so I didn't feel too overworked.  Mostly gardening, which I loved.  I was so introverted, and other kids were so obnoxious, I was better off for the solitude.  To this day, it seems.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on November 16, 2014 at 7:45am

Patricia, I found it interesting. Thanks for posting. 

Comment by Randall Smith on November 13, 2014 at 7:21am

January like temperatures are to continue for the forseeable future. My so-called hardy greens aren't faring so well. Rats.

Comment by Daniel W on November 12, 2014 at 9:04am
Its only sn opinion, but I think growing your own can lead to healthier and more enjoyable eating. I hated mist grocery store fruit so never ate it. Now I love the sweeter juicier less sour, more flavorful fruit I grow, so eat much more. Vegetables, too.

Todays low here 29. I'll see later what that did. Yesterday I cleaned up the row of young fig trees and some of my little orchard.
Comment by Idaho Spud on November 12, 2014 at 8:38am

Nice looking xmas cacti Bertold & Daniel.  I always enjoyed seeing my mother's flower in the winter.

First very hard freeze of the season here.  0 degrees F this morning (21 deg below the forecast).

Comment by Barbara Livingston on November 12, 2014 at 8:21am

Randall, nice yours is still a family farm and "in the family".  

Don, yes, I agree.Putting that idea behind us is easy when you try to shop for fruits and veggies in grocery - tasteless and hard unripened fruit, veggies drenched in pesticides ... makes growing your own very appealing. 

Comment by Don on November 12, 2014 at 8:03am

Many times I've heard similar stories, Randall--of adults who grew up on farms where they hoed and weeded in the kitchen garden all summer long (and half the spring an fall) who NEVER wanted to look at a garden plot again.  After WWII's trials and triumph, too, I think many adults of our parents' and grandparents' age felt they deserved lives of ease.  Besides, supermarkets were beginning to supply whatever you needed--much of it fresh--and home gardening smacked of the Depression and poverty.  I'm glad we have put that attitude behind us. 

Comment by Randall Smith on November 12, 2014 at 7:43am

Barbara, my mother was a "farm girl", too. However, her mother made every effort to steer her away from that kind of life. She encouraged art and music and a refined culture. To her dying day she never gardened. The family farm is now managed by my daughter and SIL. (Silverthorn-farm.com)

Comment by Barbara Livingston on November 11, 2014 at 7:31pm

Daniel, I found this defnition of a food forest and I really like how they say that one can be made up of several property owners, each doing a part of the forest. I would certainly like to convince my neighbors to discontinue use of pesticides/herbicides and join me in creating one.  I don't think you would be presumptuous at all - take a look at the little picture - I'd say you are pretty darn close if not already doing it. 

As you mentioned before there are so many different ways to go about it. While waiting four hours for two recalls to be fixed on my car this morning, I read yet another book on permaculture and the author said it requires patience and time and often years to achieve.  

Joan, again it really a case of taking from each author/expert what interests us isn't it? I'm glad you too were able to glean some good ideas from the links.  

Bertold just simply pretty and I too like the presentation. :)

Spud, In spite of living on the farm until I was 14, somehow I never attached to a brain cell the information about soil, composting and other proper gardening techniques. I saw our garden as one huge space that had to be weeded - when I would rather be doing something else.  Ditto caring for the hundreds of chickens!  I guess some things we learn late in life.  This time I decided I would not waste money on doing it the wrong way. 

Randall, Bundle up! The cold finally came roaring into TX dropping temps by 40 degrees from yesterday.  

Worm report: They are alive and ate all the original food I gave them!  I'm on my way to growing dirt. 

Comment by Daniel W on November 11, 2014 at 3:12pm

I like neatness too, but it doesn't always like me.  Getting there.

Today I was off for a few hours, so mowed my little orchard.  I think it's pretentious of me to try calling it a food forest, but it's heading that direction.  Most of the trees have mulch, continuing from summer when I applied grass clippings.  Now in the fall, about half got maple leaves.  Once it's mowed the mulch is in place, it's fairly tidy.  But not in a way that landscapers would like.

 

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