Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

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Comment by Daniel W 9 hours ago

Joan, thanks for the info on biochar.  I use ashes from my woodstove.  However, I worry about over doing it and making my acidic soil, alkaline, so I spread them pretty thin.  I basically treat wood ashes like lime.  None for rhodies, camelias, potatoes, or my young chestnut trees.  My soil pH ranges from 5.05 to 5.5 before lime or wood ashes. 

Today I started removing the raised beds that I built 5 years ago.  I had used untreated lumber, and the wood is rotting away.  Basically it is turning into compost. I built the beds too close together to mow between them with riding mower. I dont need as many as I originally built, and grow more things now in ground level beds.  I'm keeping 3 of the wood sided beds, but making them taller for easier work.  Three more will transition to cement block sides, reusing old cement blocks.  The rest will revert to grass, or in-ground beds if there is room for the riding mower between them.

After removing one, completely, and two more partially, I felt like I was on my way to a better, easier kitchen garden for next year.

Comment by Joan Denoo 15 hours ago

Biochar - split garden comparison

"This video documents our biochar and organic fertilizer gardening experiment in Madisonville, KY 2014.

The goal was to determine what would happen to 6 different plots with the same plant layouts in them if you provide 6 different types of soil amendments and nutrients.

In summary we learned that you need to know the pH of your soil and manage it properly. Without proper pH in the soil the nutrients are not available to the plant.

We confirmed that biochar can adversely affect the quality of plants (in the beginning). We also confirmed biochar can have a significant positive effect on crop production.

After understanding we unknowingly altered the pH of the soil (horse manure is mildly high in pH and biochar is between 9-10 pH), we were able to correct it enough organically to turn it around by adding 'chicken tea' to the ailing plants to bring them back to a productive state.

Next time around we will pre-inoculate the biochar with our chicken tea. The summary details are in the video."

Comment by Daniel W 19 hours ago

I'm getting so antsy to get started for next year.  I think last year I started onion seeds inside in January.  I'm getting my plant stand and light set up this week.  Now I need to find, where did I put the heating mat!  I also have daylily seeds that I stratified in the fridge, and some seem to be sprouting now.

Comment by Randall Smith 22 hours ago

Thanks Spud and Daniel. I'll be more careful from now on.

Comment by Daniel W yesterday

Randy, I have the offspring of Rossyanka, so probably quite similar.  Mine is Nikita's Gift.  Rossyanka is hybrid American Asian.  I think Nikita's Gift is delicious.  It started bearing 3 years after I planted it and is delicious.  This year my Yates American persimmon started bearing at 3 years after planting.  It is also very good and originates in Indiana.  I think I got it from Starks but might have been Burnt Ridge.

Thanks Spud for the articles about bleach.  I wouldnt advise using that.  For saving pee, I only save one day at a time using a widemouth plastic jar with a cap.  Some detergents come in jars like that.  I rinse thouroughly with water each time.  Odor is minimal.  In the garden, I dilute 4 fold in watering can.  During winter it just goes on grass or compost, omly a coiple of times during winter.  I dont want to over do it.

Comment by Idaho Spud yesterday

About bleach in the garden, I googled it and the consensus is that if it's chlorine bleach, it's not good.  It makes the soil more alkaline, which you & I don't want.  As it breaks-down, it adds salt to the soil, and it kills friendly microorganisms.  Here are two places that talk about it:



Comment by Idaho Spud yesterday

Major stinkiness is the main reason I don't save my urine for the garden.  Peeuu!!

Comment by Randall Smith yesterday

Has anybody (Daniel, in particular) ever hear of a Rosseyanka persimmon? Sounds like a good variety. Google it.

Been urinating in a bucket the past week to toss in the garden. I have to bleach my container every other day due to the stinky odor. Wondering if bleach harms the soil?

Comment by Daniel W on Thursday

Thomas and Spud, thanks for the info.  I'll stick to regular edible mushrooms from the grocery store. Each to their own:-)   Interesting, I don't do anything on that list, but still wound up with cancer.

Randy, I liked the caption for those zinnias too.  Maybe the seedling indicates youth, and the fully opened flowers indicates age?

I was thinking about those monster Shasta daisies.  That location is atop the septic tank drainage field.  Maybe that's why they grew so huge.  Regardless, now they are mowed, and the area will be grass next year.

Comment by Idaho Spud on Tuesday

Magic mushroom info is interesting.  In Wikipedia, I found this chart made from talking to drug-harm experts:


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