Gun Owning Atheists


Gun Owning Atheists

The 2nd Amendment guarantees an American's RIGHT to own firearms. Much like the 1st Amendment guarantees the concept to keep Church and State separate.

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The next threat to OUR GUN RIGHTS inside our Gov't:

The next justice of the Supreme Court could well cast the deciding vote on the constitutionality of ObamaCare. And that justice will almost certainly preside, during the next thirty years, over dozens of cases which could very well chip away at the DC v. Heller decision, telling us which gun laws the court views as "constitutional" and which "unconstitutional."

So it is more than a little interesting that Barack Qbama has reached into his closet of political leftists to bring out Elena Kagan -- a woman whose legal views have been shaped by the most extreme socialist voices in Washington.

Kagan doesn't have a record of judicial opinions. She hasn't been a judge. So the crafty Obama figures that, without a paper trail, we won't know of the ways she is moving American jurisprudence to the left until it's too late.

But Kagan's views on the Second Amendment are no mystery. According to columnist James Oliphant, Kagan was part of "a small group of staffers work[ing] behind the scenes to pursue an aggressive policy agenda" during President Bill Clinton's second term.

Oliphant writes: "According to records at the William J. Clinton Presidential Library in Little Rock, Ark., [Kagan] drafted an executive order restricting the importation of certain semiautomatic assault rifles. She also helped prepare a question-and-answer document advocating the campaign-reform legislation then proposed by Sens. Russ Feingold and John McCain."

Kagan was also part of the Clinton team that pushed the firearms industry to include gun locks with all gun purchases and was in the Clinton administration when the president pushed legislation that would close down gun shows.

President Obama has made it very clear that he expects Kagan's "powers of persuasion" to make her and Justice Anthony Kennedy the swing votes to uphold his anti-gun ObamaCare legislation.

Kagan's opinion of the "greatest lawyer" of her lifetime was her former boss -- the consistently left-wing Justice Thurgood Marshall.

Bloomberg News reported on May 13 that while working for Justice Marshall, Kagan urged him to vote against hearing a gun owner's claim that his constitutional rights were violated.

Kagan wrote that she was "not sympathetic" toward the gun rights claim that was made in Sandidge v. United States -- an amazing statement for a woman who is being heralded for supposedly showing a "special solicitude" for the interests of certain groups.

Alas, it seems that gun owners are not a part of those groups for whom she would like to show special concern.

After the Heller case was handed down, Kagan did concede that the Second Amendment was an "individual right." But that makes her no different than the talking heads at the Brady Campaign.

Kagan, like the President who nominated her, is an extreme leftist. According to (May 6, 2009), she is so far to the left she has lamented that socialism has "never attained the status of a major political force" in our country.

And according to (March 20, 2009), she says that foreign law can be used to interpret the U.S. Constitution in "some circumstances." Considering that most of the world does not respect the freedoms that are protected in our Second Amendment, this is a bad sign.

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Comment by Habman on October 8, 2009 at 9:05pm
"The capacity of the American military to crush any rebellion on American soil has nothing to do with its struggles in Afghanistan (where our military is viewed as an occupying force--and a small one at that"

Since you went there Bull Fuckin; Shit Don ann it must be nice to be the smartest man in the whole entire world, as only Don knows a damn thing about anything. Since you don't have a clue as to who or what I am proclamations like "your solemn, wide-eyed apocalyptic visions are as silly as superhero cartoons", are absurd.

You don't have any insight into what I my vision of shit is because you never asked me all you do know is that I disagree with your assessment of this single situation.

That is all you know about me Donny, however if you would like to know another coupe of little pieces of my vision I will tell you, I don't think you are hitting on all cylinders in the brain department. I think you are a bully who spouts off a lot but backs nothing up with anything other than personal attacks and bullshit.

But hey that is probably more introspection than your ego can handle, so back to the facts of the situation.

Afghanistan is a lot smaller country then the good old US of A, area and population wise. Our military is a fixed size with a majority of it spread out around the globe and only a small contingent in the US at any given time. The population of many areas already view the Federal government as invaders/usurpers at some level and if real fighting breaks out they will join in.

And anyone with half a fucking brain is not going to stand up to tanks, is that what is happening in Iraq, Afghanistan? Not at all they blow them up with IEDs they don't stand in front of them with sticks.

You speak of motivation of the British troops, what is the motivation of a US soldier to fire on their friends and family? The British troops were much more disciplined and likely to pull the trigger then any solider in the modern US army.

If there was an uprising a full 50% would refuse to fire on their fellow US citizens right off the top before actually given the order. Another 50+% of those remaining would balk at the first engagement. The army knows this as they have studied this

On top of that local police, armed as well as the military, at least at the tactical level, would trend to standing with the locals.

I qm not saying it would succeed or that it should even happen, but you wouldn't know that would you Don as you are a intellectually just a fucking bully, and as such I promise not to waste another minute of my life responding to you. Since it would do no good and why would you want to debate to me a member of the great unwashed masses.
Comment by Aiden on October 8, 2009 at 3:48pm
Being an Irish history buff, I have to agree with Habman here. The Easter Rising, followed by Michael Collins' urban-guerrilla campaign, shows what a small group of ill-equipped patriots can accomplish against a much more powerful (militarily) enemy.
Comment by Habman on October 8, 2009 at 3:20pm
Bullpiles Don.

It is done with something called guerrilla warfare and it does work when those involved are firmly resolved to win. A large modern military doesn't work well against asymmetrical threats.

Guerrilla warfare tactics wear down standing armies, and who are the military but the people. They see their friends and family involved they switch sides.

If the founding fathers took your viewpoint they would have quit before they even started. Britain was the superpower of the 18th century, yet we beat them twice. So much for failure.

Our military can't be everywhere at once, hell we can't even hold all of the dust bowl that is Afghanistan with the most advanced military in the world and they use junk to fight us with.
Comment by Heidi Guedel on October 6, 2009 at 11:02pm
The entire time I watched those cel phone video scenes of the short-lived but passionate uprising in the streets of Iran after the obviously rigged re-election of Ahmadinejad, I kept thinking about the fact that those citizens obviously do not have the right to keep and bear arms... and that's the political reality they get... a crushed rebellion and a subjugated citizenry. They can cry out "Allah akbar" after dark 'til they're blue in the face... but the gawd of Abraham will never help them "pass the ammunition" ... no matter how much they praise "him".
Comment by Aiden on October 6, 2009 at 2:57pm
Does anyone here own a Springfield Armory XD series, or have you shot one before? If so, which one(s) and how do you like it/them?
Comment by Habman on October 4, 2009 at 1:11pm
As Joseph Stalin said: "Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas." or "The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do. "
Comment by Aiden on September 4, 2009 at 8:52pm

Comment by Ronnie on September 4, 2009 at 8:10pm
Stay classy Realizer
Comment by Realizer on September 4, 2009 at 5:27pm
Bull Shit.....
Comment by Kenitoquerqe on September 4, 2009 at 11:49am
Another liberal, French-food-loving, duck-hunting, Camus-reading, self-employed gun nut sending props to the cogence in this group.

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