Gun Owning Atheists


Gun Owning Atheists

The 2nd Amendment guarantees an American's RIGHT to own firearms. Much like the 1st Amendment guarantees the concept to keep Church and State separate.

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The next threat to OUR GUN RIGHTS inside our Gov't:

The next justice of the Supreme Court could well cast the deciding vote on the constitutionality of ObamaCare. And that justice will almost certainly preside, during the next thirty years, over dozens of cases which could very well chip away at the DC v. Heller decision, telling us which gun laws the court views as "constitutional" and which "unconstitutional."

So it is more than a little interesting that Barack Qbama has reached into his closet of political leftists to bring out Elena Kagan -- a woman whose legal views have been shaped by the most extreme socialist voices in Washington.

Kagan doesn't have a record of judicial opinions. She hasn't been a judge. So the crafty Obama figures that, without a paper trail, we won't know of the ways she is moving American jurisprudence to the left until it's too late.

But Kagan's views on the Second Amendment are no mystery. According to columnist James Oliphant, Kagan was part of "a small group of staffers work[ing] behind the scenes to pursue an aggressive policy agenda" during President Bill Clinton's second term.

Oliphant writes: "According to records at the William J. Clinton Presidential Library in Little Rock, Ark., [Kagan] drafted an executive order restricting the importation of certain semiautomatic assault rifles. She also helped prepare a question-and-answer document advocating the campaign-reform legislation then proposed by Sens. Russ Feingold and John McCain."

Kagan was also part of the Clinton team that pushed the firearms industry to include gun locks with all gun purchases and was in the Clinton administration when the president pushed legislation that would close down gun shows.

President Obama has made it very clear that he expects Kagan's "powers of persuasion" to make her and Justice Anthony Kennedy the swing votes to uphold his anti-gun ObamaCare legislation.

Kagan's opinion of the "greatest lawyer" of her lifetime was her former boss -- the consistently left-wing Justice Thurgood Marshall.

Bloomberg News reported on May 13 that while working for Justice Marshall, Kagan urged him to vote against hearing a gun owner's claim that his constitutional rights were violated.

Kagan wrote that she was "not sympathetic" toward the gun rights claim that was made in Sandidge v. United States -- an amazing statement for a woman who is being heralded for supposedly showing a "special solicitude" for the interests of certain groups.

Alas, it seems that gun owners are not a part of those groups for whom she would like to show special concern.

After the Heller case was handed down, Kagan did concede that the Second Amendment was an "individual right." But that makes her no different than the talking heads at the Brady Campaign.

Kagan, like the President who nominated her, is an extreme leftist. According to (May 6, 2009), she is so far to the left she has lamented that socialism has "never attained the status of a major political force" in our country.

And according to (March 20, 2009), she says that foreign law can be used to interpret the U.S. Constitution in "some circumstances." Considering that most of the world does not respect the freedoms that are protected in our Second Amendment, this is a bad sign.

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Comment by Wes on February 23, 2010 at 6:55pm
I had gotten so fed up with the flagrant misuse of the terms 'libertarian' and 'socialist' (ie Obama is not a socialist and the Tea Baggers are not libertarians) that I started calling myself a Libertarian Socialist just to make people blink at me rapidly. Then I actually found out there is a school of thought called 'libertarian socialism' (basically, 'mutualism') and was astounded to find out really was one. Basically, I help me and I help you, you don't infringe on me and I don't infringe on you.
Comment by Rusty Gunn. on February 23, 2010 at 6:24pm
I see your point. Geeze, wouldn't it be nice if the people most likely to need a gun for self defense (living in the cities) could come to realize that when push comes to shove, and you're dealing with a violent criminal face to face, the only thing thats going to bring one out safely is superior force?!
Comment by Rusty Gunn. on February 23, 2010 at 5:58pm
Don, I agree with what you said except for the last sentence. In the last 20 years there has been an enormous change in favor of gun owners. In a total of FORTY states we now have "shall issue" concealed carry laws, AND the Heller decision was a big win anyway you look at it. The McDonald case will be argued before the SCOTUS early next month and the chances of getting Heller "incorporated" against the states through the 14 amendment are very good. We've even got folks here in the People's Republik of Kalifornya dance'n in the streets, albeit a tad prematurely. Geeze, it'd be nice to live in a state like Vermont where one could be treated like a citizen rather than a subject.
Comment by Rusty Gunn. on February 23, 2010 at 5:31pm
I'm sure you folks from the left side of the political spectrum are really puzzled by the failure of your fellow lefters to understand the whole concept of the right to self defense and that without a firearm the average person basically does not have that right. For the record, I'm pleased to be associated with you even if we're not in agreement on other issues.
Comment by Aiden on February 23, 2010 at 1:42pm
Hmmm, I should move to Vermont. Virginia is way too Republican for me.
Comment by Aiden on February 23, 2010 at 1:30pm
Rusty, just because we exercise and defend our right to bear arms doesn't make us all right-wingers... For example, unlike what Fox News and the Tea-Baggers would have you believe our president is, I am a socialist.
Comment by Rusty Gunn. on February 22, 2010 at 7:21pm
Well, I'm just flat out tickled pink to find this group! As most of you know, I'm sure, atheists tend to be far lefters and I'm not really comfortable spending a lot of time amongst them. I'd like to suggest the following website

and American Thinkers is right along the same lines.

As for guns, I've got a gunsafe full of them, mostly handguns of one configuration or another. I'm also a reloader. Years ago I was a gun control advocate but I did a remarkable thing, I gave the opposing view a fair hearing!! Guess what?!

I'm living in Stanislaus Co. (People's Republik of Kalifornya) and if you live in the area perhaps we could get together and go to the gun range.
Comment by Brittany Evanovich on February 3, 2010 at 5:44pm
Hi everyone, I joined because I love guns. A lot. Pretty obsessed with target shooting. Are there any other younger girls in this group? I've been shooting rifles since I was 8, in a well educated environment that advocated and educated gun safety. I'm of the belief that we'd have a lot less gun violence amongst younger people if we had more gun education. I don't belong to the NRA, for the same reasons others have stated. I used to hunt but I don't go out for that as often (too cold)
Comment by Gregor on December 31, 2009 at 8:36am
Hello from Kansas.
As a former Marine I firmly believe in absolutely no gun control. The only true "gun control," in my opinion is if it is in your hand. This may seem, may be, a very short sighted view, but no matter how many gun laws are on the books, but only people you will fear who have guns are the criminals who will have them anyway.
Our founding fathers set up a Republic and put in the 2nd amendment for an all volunteer army. They would be aghast and the Industrial Military Complex that is in power now. Where we are and where they imagined us are two completely different places. The 2nd amendment may be even more important now than it was then.
I think I'm with Don in saying that our governement will not attack us and that is a dillusion, but, I will say that we have seen the tip of that right wing authoritarian iceburg. If we are not careful, that sucker may breach the water quite a bit more.
I'm in Kansas, and don't get much in the way of secular conversation, so indulge in any constructive (or funny) criticism you'd like.
Comment by Mdooo1 on November 24, 2009 at 10:42am
Greetings Kentucky! lol

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