Every time someone wants to allege that something like DNA has to have a supernatural origin, I find myself coming back to two words: Physical Chemistry. Now, granted that I am not a chemist or a Chem-E (chemical engineer), but what I understand of physical chemistry is that it's the study of what is possible within the chemical realm, the dynamics of why certain reactions can happen and others can't, as well as the properties of individual elements as a product of their electron orbital arrangements.
It seems to me that a progression might be studied as to just HOW self-replicating molecules such as DNA developed as a function of PhysChem. It would probably be a very long and intricate description (appropriate, as from the time Earth was created to the first known life was around 600 million years!), but I suspect an answer is there ... and the answer sure as hell ain't "god!"
And when god-claimers assert that the development of self-replicating molecules such as DNA is unimaginably improbable without their god... DNA might well not have arisen in many possible alternate universes, but because we're here, observing our universe, this reality we have must be one conducive to the origin of intelligent life as we know it.
If the universe were in fact designed by a creator god with a special interest in human beings, and a particular benevolent concern for our welfare, it sure doesn't look like it! "God's plan" is indistinguishable from no god and no plan. Victor Stenger examines many aspects of this in God: The Failed Hypothesis.
Of course, it's a giant leap from "there's a creator god who cares about us" to "this particular religion is the path to your best life / getting the seriously good divine rewards / avoiding the seriously horrific divine punishments"! The believer trying to win you over must recognize that billions of people on this planet are devout believers in (at least) tens of thousands of false religions, who know in their heart that their religion is true and can give all kinds of "proofs" of it; why should his/her religion be any different? As Homer Simpson said, "what if we picked the wrong religion? Every week we're just making God madder and madder."
With so much evidence that Homo is a long way from sapiens, they are saying a benevolent god did it?
If I were a god I would ask my co-gods to send them a few lightning bolts.
Christina, a famous member of England's Parliament long ago said the best speeches are given in a carriage on the way home.
Something in you told the woman that to you the double helix meant science, and then implied that you have work to do and don't have time for a debate. Something else in you wanted a debate and a better reply came later. Welcome to politics.
"The best speeches are given in a carriage on the way home." Good quote, Tom. It's easier for me to come up with a better response much later - always.
I too often miss opportunities to express my respect for those who cast off superstitions and require evidence before making claims. Those who pretend to know that god exists have nothing to offer me and I have heard all the blather about other people's gods that will last a lifetime.
Incidentally, Christina, I have many relatives in the St. Maries and Emida cemeteries. One of my grandmother's sisters (the English family) owned the grocery store in Emida and another of her sisters (the Middleton family) lived in the house outside of Emida that had a barn below and the living quarter above. They grew and delivered fresh vegetables to the mining and lumbering camps of the region.
Small world :-) I am a transplant, myself. I have been here 2 1/2 years; moved here from Iowa City, Iowa. It is definitely a bit of culture shock for me.
How are you doing, Christina? It has been over a year since we chatted.
A double helix screen saver and someone asks what it means?
Oh I wish a theist would ask ! ! !
“With a powerful-enough telescope you will see double helixes in the sky and with a powerful-enough microscope you will see double helixes in your DNA.”