I just wanted to make a fun discussion and see what all of you are doing on Memorial Day.

Anyone attending a parade?

Anyone honoring vets?

Here is an event in Austin that looks very interesting to me.

Austin, TX

Close Assault 1944 is living history and battle reenactment demonstrating the weapons and equipment of US and German forces during WWII. See dozens of vehicles including a Sherman tank in action. See weapons blank fired and learn about the 36th Division in WWII. Tour the museum whose 42,000 sq ft showcase Texas Military History from 1823 to today. Show times are 11 am and 2 pm both days. Rain or shine. Event is FREE and open to the public. A picture ID is required for adults to enter Camp Mabry.

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When the American Civil War ended, survivors walked back to their homes. Without maps, without lighted highways, they walked along dark roads or through forested land. Only the light of large bonfires told them they were approaching settled areas along their way.

The Veterans Home in CA's Napa Valley was founded by Civil War veterans in 1884 and each Memorial Day has an all night Watch Fire tended by residents. In a nearby cemetery are the remains of hundred of veterans.

During the several days, there are also the usual concerts and speakers and visitors are welcome.

I feel slightly sick about honoring war vets because, while honor is due for defending one's country, many men die in wars of aggression as well. Mostly, though, I hate the way it glorifies war, pretending it's all about honor, bravery, music and parades, when war really is human beings at our most depraved. What about a day to honor peace makers?

I agree, Ruth; many of America's wars have been wars of aggression. The glorification starts in children's toys and continues to veterans' burial ceremonies. It serves a purpose: it creates a supply of cannon fodder for profit. I lost my childhood idealism later than most people lose it. Cynicism failed too.

There are reasons we don't honor peace makers. Do you want to start a discussion that will ask AN people to identify the reasons they see?

I finished 8th grade in 1945 and when I learned of all the killing I was disgusted with human beings for choosing insane people to lead nations. In the Korean War I was a shipboard electrician and didn't see any killing. I can understand military suicide.

Decades ago I stopped saying those two words in the Pledge; the Bush years persuaded me to stop saying the Pledge. I don't keep it a secret from other veterans and when they ask my reason I tell them "When you pledge allegiance to the Constitution, let's talk."

I understand what you mean Ruth.

War is not a good thing. Peace is preferred.

And then, Steph, reality enters.

War, the neoconservatives and war profiteers like.

Peace, the neoconservatives and war profiteers dislike.




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