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bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller yesterday. 39 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller Sep 6. 0 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

We Don't Want Your (Atheist) Money! (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 2. 17 Replies

I suppose I've heard stories like this before:Conscientious atheist donates money to worthy cause.Worthy cause initially accepts money.Worthy cause discovers source of donation.Worthy cause rejects donation.Swell, eh?  Well Matt Willbourne of…Continue

Tags: American Baptist Churches Association, Murrow Indian Children's Home, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly Sep 2. 3 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

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Are You a Patriot? (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris G Aug 29. 22 Replies

You might think that Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, would be stepping outside of her comfort zone in tackling the concept of patriotism.  As it turns out, not only does she have a proper handle on the term and its implications, she also…Continue

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Comment by sk8eycat on January 28, 2012 at 4:48pm

Justalysn, ironic, isn't it? Convicted felons get better care overall than people who worked and paid taxes all their lives. This especially applies to women because when we were in the workforce we were paid less than men doing the same jobs, or were forced to take lower paying jobs just to stay alive.

I still remember a not-so-funny comic strip from 10+ years ago: An attractive woman is standing on a stage in front of a microphone, holding a script.  She's obviously auditioning for something. One of the five men sitting in the front row asks, "How fast do you type?"

Made me growl, but it's so true!  Even women with post-graduate degrees got asked that question...and often had to settle for clerical work.  At close to minimum wage.

Women who do what conservatives say they should do, stay at home and raise the kids, with all the hard labor and intelligence that that entails, count for next to nothing, as far as Social InSecurity is concerned, when they become widowed.  And they lose even more "benefits" should they remarry.

Something is terribly wrong here.

Comment by sk8eycat on January 28, 2012 at 2:07pm

This isn't really about religion or non-religion...except it seems to be the sheeple who call themselves xians just don't "get" why some people need help:

New Medicare Program

You're a sick senior citizen and the government says there is no nursing home available for you. So what do you do?

Our plan gives anyone 65 years or older a gun and 4 bullets. You are allowed to shoot four Politicians.

Of course, this means you will be sent to prison where you will get three meals a day, a roof over your head, central heating, air conditioning and all the health care you need!
Need new teeth? No problem. Need glasses? That’s great. Need a new hip, knees, kidney, lungs or heart? They’re all covered.
As an added bonus, your kids can come and visit you as often as they do now.

And who will be paying for all of this? It’s the same government that just told you that you they cannot afford for you to go into a home.

Plus,  because you are a prisoner, you don't have to pay any income taxes anymore.

Is this a great country or what?
Comment by Jason Fleming on January 28, 2012 at 11:37am

I think its natural that we have a "Yankocentric" voice here. Besides having greater numbers (and a tenancy to state our opinions regardless of solicitation), we also have in my opinion a more religious atmosphere here, and therefore warrants greater push-back.

But you are right. We tend to cite our own constitution (as well as the Declaration of Independence) a lot when there are folks here from all over the rest of the English speaking world who's laws are not governed by it.

However, the reason is because we are currently facing attempts by the fundies to co opt our democracy and transform it into a theocracy. So naturally, our freedoms and rights granted to us by these documents are on the forefront of our minds.

You make a good point about the "Appointed by God" argument. For centuries, the Crown of England (as well as many others) has used this claim to validate its control over the people. It has been a means to cement subjugation. "You are surfs and Peasants because God wanted you to be." 

That's part of why I found it so funny that several of our recent GOP candidates (sorry, bringing it back to us again) claim that God told them to run, only to drop out early in the primary. Apparently, the god in question must be Loki, and a bit of an asshole.

Comment by sk8eycat on January 27, 2012 at 9:52pm

@Jonel Burge:

Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed.
This is spelled out in the Declaration of Independence, and was a viewpoint that directly contradicted the notion that the powers of governments were granted to kings by God. This was essential in justifying the separation of the colonies from British Rule. The theory that governments derived their powers from the consent of the governed lies in some of the contemporary philosophy of Social Contract Theory as discussed by John Locke, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, and Thomas Hobbes.



Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_source_do_governments_derive_their_%...

 

Since it comes right after the Deist mention of "their Creator," it really fries their little crosses when you bring it up in conversation.

Comment by sk8eycat on January 27, 2012 at 9:18pm

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Comment by Jonel Burge on January 27, 2012 at 8:40pm

Well we already know they pick and choose whatever when it comes to their religion.

Everlasting life? YES.

Spending it on your knees, worshipping yaweh? mmmnnnooo....

Prayer, when you ask, god answers? YES.

Prayer is supposed to be private and personal? NOPE.

And that would be why slavery is illegal(which god had no problem with) but gay rights are still an issue.

Of course, when I brought up the "but isn't there something about slaves being good to have in the bible?" she goes "well of course god says to follow the law of the land as well" and I reply with "What if gay marriage becomes legal? It'll be the law of the land then..."

Then I got blocked. yay!

The verse she was referring to from the bible(as far as I could dig up)

 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+13%3A1-7&ver...

Okay after actually reading/researching it, here is my issue:

It's claiming that all authorities are appointed/chosen by god. How does that make sense? Since when is democratic vote=god? 

Comment by Sansdeity on January 27, 2012 at 1:12pm

I posted the link over at r/atheism which I think might have a lot to do with the skewed results.

Comment by Peter Cranny on January 27, 2012 at 1:08pm

Even "Judge forces school to take down prayer banner" would have been better - and more accurate.

Comment by dr kellie on January 27, 2012 at 1:06pm

What makes me sick is the headline, "Atheist girl forces school to take down prayer banner."  Uh.  That is the best and fairest thing you could come up with?  How about, "Atheist girl supports the constitution."

Comment by sk8eycat on January 27, 2012 at 12:52pm

The poll is now at 80% in agreement that the banner is unconstitutional.

 

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