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Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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Afrodisiacs – African Aphrodisiacs

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud 4 hours ago. 1 Reply

Am I so old and not know the definition of aphrodisiac, and its historical definition being based on Aphrodite, that her name came from the African drugs that Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans used for sexual enhancement? Dhu!  Aphrodite, ancient Greek…Continue

Tags: Africa, Lady, Victorian

Degrees of Doubt: The Claims and Credentials of Ravi Zacharias (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris May 17. 1 Reply

Anyone here ever run onto an apologist by the name of Ravi Zacharias?  I've seen his name dropped multiple times on YouTube as supposedly being THE ONE APOLOGIST that no atheist wants to cross swords with, because of his facility with christian…Continue

Tags: Ravi Zacharias, Steve Baughman, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Most Hated Woman in America (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Gary S Apr 19. 7 Replies

Before Aron Ra and Matt Dillahunty, before Dawkins or Dennett or Harris or even Hitchens, there was Madalyn Murray O'Hair.  In the midst of an America where Christianity was being flaunted as a defense against the godless communists of the Soviet…Continue

Tags: Frank Zindler, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Madalyn Murray O'Hair

Proud Dad is REALLY Proud Now!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Todd Williams Apr 12. 16 Replies

As some of you may or may not know, my daughter is a television news producer, currently working in Nashville, Tennessee.  Her assignment is the morning news, which means she blasts herself up at umpti-ump in the morning to organize and prepare a…Continue

Tags: Emmy, news, television, daughter, dad

attacking ideas (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 1 Reply

Attacking ideas is a considerable portion of what we as atheists do.  Why attack ideas?  Ideas earn attack when they don't serve people, not just us but those who adopt said ideas, mistakenly thinking that they have value when they don't.  Our…Continue

Tags: ideas, Islam, TheraminTrees

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 40 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

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Comment by Randall Smith 26 minutes ago

Joan, I hear you! My children have trouble listening to "their old man". Actually, I don't have to tell them anything--not to do something, etc.--but they know me and how I feel. Then later, "you were right, Dad".

I handed over the check last night (to my farm kids) with all my concerns and suggestions. They actually listened and agreed! I'm still optimistic that they'll turn the corner. From now on, they're going to have to make it on their own. Thanks, all, for your comments.

Comment by Idaho Spud 4 hours ago

Sorry about the farm problems Randy.  I imagine the youngsters are more stressed about it than you.  Hope to hear good news one of these days.

Comment by Plinius 6 hours ago

Joan, I think you're sensible to anticipate on the next crisis, but have you got someone who looks after your Spokane house? 

Comment by Ian Mason 9 hours ago

I've had several discussions with my daughter on the state of the world. She encountered Marxism in philosophy classes at high school and thinks he makes sense (base/superstructure model, capitalism as inherently unstable) but believes that nothing can be done. Such is life, put up with it, survive as best you can etc. All talk by us 'oldies' of the 'good old days' when there was solidarity, trade unions that fought for something and optimism that society could be changed for the better is just whinging and whining.

I find working hard to distinguish between accepting the things I cannot change and trying to change the things I cannot accept. These past few years I've been active again in demonstrations, rallies and petitions because I honestly think that society is regressing toward a dog-eat-dog world again.

Comment by Daniel W 12 hours ago

Joan, I agree with you about whining and about ownership.

Sometimes some venting is needed, but mostly I like to proclaim victory over troubles by finding solutions or adjusting my response.

The first time I really took control, quit letting others define me, and changed my destiny was, as a teenager, enlisting into the USArmy.  Things were not going well before that.  I was working 3 minimum wage jobs trying to survive an attempt at college.  Most people were shocked, my parents were horrified, and anyone can argue that my teenaged logic at the time was very flawed.  But that decision changed my destiny, and changed who I was for the better.  It was the beginning to life on my terms.  So did volunteering to serve in Turkey, so did getting out when my time was done, and many other changes of course.  No fears and no regrets!  And no whining!

If your children laugh at you behind your back, thrn I have no respect for them.  if there is a forest fire -  something they acknowledge and fear, then your house in Spokane may well ve their refuge.  They need to grow up.  They need to respect you behind your back and be grateful.

Comment by Joan Denoo 16 hours ago

Ian, Silkeborg, Jutland, Norway, it is beautiful there! So flat! Is it near sea level? 

The photos are inviting: COME TO NORWAY.

Comment by Joan Denoo 17 hours ago

Randy, I am sorry to learn of the financial difficulties your kids have and that it puts you in a vulnerable spot. I like your plan to loan them the money, with definite conditions: cut back, save more.  

It is difficult in these days and many farms and businesses will be failing. Our city of Spokane, and also Newport, have so many closed stores, even as new malls go in. Even the doctors' buildings have vacancies.  

Sadly, too many people do know see what is coming, economically.  My daughter told me the other night that she and Larry and their friends just laugh at me because I tell them all indicators are in place for a depression like nothing we have ever seen.  

Under all is the land!

I decided to not sell my house because I know its value will rise in the recovery and all I have to pay are taxes and insurance. They don't think I know what I talk about. They make fun of me even as they are respectful toward me to my face.  

I'll be dead before the things that I expect to happen and they will not make any difference to me, so I agreed to sell.  

They don't realize that now is not the time to be in debt!

Smarty Pants! They know more than I do, they both own their businesses, they both have noticed a downturn in their businesses, they don't see that as a sign.

Oh! Well! the beetles and bacteria will be gnawing away at my bones and my children and their spouses will look back and realize I am not the old woman with wild ideas.  

Randy, you still have years ahead of you. Take care of your interests!

Comment by Lilac 18 hours ago

Looks like a beautiful town, Ian Mason.

Comment by Joan Denoo 19 hours ago

Bertold, life offers many pleasures when we focus on "caring about the environment, truth, justice or social issues." Sure, there are problems AND there are solutions. Whining not being one of them. 

Describing is different than whining. 

Describing calls attention to a problem, chronicles it over time, defines it, interprets it, names it, and reports it. 

Whining is the same as griping, wailing, moaning, whimpering, it makes a sound about a problem that has no description, definition, or action connected to it. I have family members, long ago dead, who spent their whole lives whining about this or that. Nary any effort to find a solution or end the " whiz or whistle through the air."

Whine: "to complain in a feeble way" is first recorded 1530. The noun is from 1633, a northern form of O.E. hwinsian survives, 

whinge "to complain peevishly."

http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/whine

Comment by Ian Mason 20 hours ago

I've been away for the weekend, to the pleasant Jutland town of Silkeborg, visiting a good friend and enjoying the annual 'Riverboat' jazz festival. Good stuff, with everything from small swing trios to bigger jive bands. No photos because you can't take snaps of music but here's an ariel picture of the town. A pleasant place that sits on the mid-Jutland lakes.

 

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