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bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Compelledunbeliever 11 hours ago. 37 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller Sep 6. 0 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

We Don't Want Your (Atheist) Money! (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 2. 17 Replies

I suppose I've heard stories like this before:Conscientious atheist donates money to worthy cause.Worthy cause initially accepts money.Worthy cause discovers source of donation.Worthy cause rejects donation.Swell, eh?  Well Matt Willbourne of…Continue

Tags: American Baptist Churches Association, Murrow Indian Children's Home, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly Sep 2. 3 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Are You a Patriot? (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris G Aug 29. 22 Replies

You might think that Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, would be stepping outside of her comfort zone in tackling the concept of patriotism.  As it turns out, not only does she have a proper handle on the term and its implications, she also…Continue

Tags: patriot, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

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Comment by Joan Denoo on January 18, 2013 at 6:39pm

booklover and  Lillie, it is really hard to heal wounds that go so deeply as with problems with our parents. When I started doing my family genealogy, I had the opportunity to track down birthplaces of many of my ancestors on both side. Few knew the deep dark secrets of their ancestry. "We never talk about that!" many would say to me as I asked questions. Talking to genealogy librarians, descendants of other common ancestry, court and church records, and understanding the moral and ethical customs of their times, I found out our history that could not be talked about.

This information gave me insight into why they acted the way they did, why they thought and related that was so unhealthy. Thankfully, by learning effective and efficient communication ways, how to speak assertively and listen actively, how to identify problems, to develop a vision of a preferred future, create action plans and the value of taking risks, I was able to make the kinds of changes that were healthy. 

For me, it was violence in the family, but there are many other ways to cause harm to a new life that last their lifetime. Something very shattering, something strong enough to break old patterns then becomes your gift. 

One of the things I did in therapy was concentrate on remembering the strength I gained from each of them, build on those strengths and develop new skills that they were unable to teach me. 

Hope this helps in your journey to peach, joy, contentment and compassion. 

Comment by sk8eycat on January 18, 2013 at 6:15pm

If churches were at least required to file an honest annual Profit and Loss Statement (and a balance sheet) with the IRS the way other "non-profits" do, at least we would be able to see which ones were using their gross income to feed, clothe, and house the needy, and which ones were transferring the money offshore.

We also have to close ALL the tax loopholes that large corporations take advantage of, and stop giving benefits to oil companies and Big Agriculture...to name just two.

When Clinton left office the budget was balanced, and there was a fiscal surplus....But Dubya (with the help of De Facto Prez Cheney) had to have TWO futile wars to show the world he was more macho than his "Poppy." At the same time, they got congress to cut taxes on the welthiest.  Conservatives have been calling liberals the "tax and spend party " for decades,but they themselves are the "spend and spend party."

http://factcheck.org/2008/02/the-budget-and-deficit-under-clinton/

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 18, 2013 at 5:41pm
In small town USA, churches, schools, volunteer fire departments offer great places for community building. The problem, as I see it, is evangelism. If they came together to share with others, to pot-luck together, to take on community projects, that is one thing. However, proselytizing is an imperative for too many of them. Non-believers, such as myself, didn't say anything, we just put up with their babble.
NO MORE! Our school boards, local to national governments begin to look more like an evangelical gathering and I want no part of it. I will stay militant until and unless they mind their own business and get out of legislating their morality ... which many of them have trouble living.
Comment by Steph S. on January 18, 2013 at 5:30pm

Comment by Lillie on January 18, 2013 at 3:20pm

John, I say that the real me was born the day my mother died.  It was such a relief.  I am so glad she is no longer in this world and since there is no Heaven or Hell, I won't ever have to see her again.  This is really sad.  I hope my children won't say that about me when I am gone.  Whatever my mother did, I tried to do the opposite.  Sometimes a strange negative thought comes into my mind and I wonder where in the world it came from.  Then I laugh and say, "Margaret lives."

Comment by Future on January 18, 2013 at 1:21pm

There are thousands of small churches across the US that could not survive if they were taxed.  I don't really wish to see them shuttered because of something outside of their control.  However, practicing politics is completely inside of their control, and I am all for removing the tax exemption from any church who is stupid enough to use their captive audience to influence political issues and elections.  In my vision of a perfect world, all churches would be shuttered not because they had no choice, but because their members started thinking critically and left.

Comment by sk8eycat on January 18, 2013 at 11:36am

James and Steph, and anybody, is there any country in the world today that has the courage to tax everyonee, and every business, equally....  including churches?

I keep hoping I'll live to see the day when the US (and each state)will wake up and calculate the income that could be amassed by taxing church property at the same rate that houses are taxed, but I doubt it's gonna happen.  Ever.

Comment by Steph S. on January 18, 2013 at 10:14am

I want all those cats booklover. I pick them all.

That was great James. Thanks. I enjoyed reading your comment.

So it's Friday!! Yay!

I hope everyone is having a good day today.

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 18, 2013 at 10:09am

Cat's ready for harvest is very funny!

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 18, 2013 at 9:08am

Patricia, I love your examples of what the US could learn from other countries.

 

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