Hang With Friends

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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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Issues Atheist, Feminist, GLBTQ, Climate Change

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by BenGee on Saturday. 3 Replies

This is a test Continue

The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly on Thursday. 15 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Oct 17. 2 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

A moment to relax and see the Earth from space; some how this comforts me.

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Qiana-Maieev Oct 16. 3 Replies

All the squabbles and struggles that I have do not compare with those of some others on this great planet. There are no boundary lines, no political arguments, no up or no down. What is, is. For right now, the scenes offer tranquility. Just the…Continue

Tags: and, wonder, awe, of, space

His Dark Materials and the Catholic Church

Started by Tonya R. Wheeler. Last reply by Plinius Oct 16. 27 Replies

I recently watched the movie, "The Golden Compass" and since I could not find the sequels, I read the books. I enjoyed them, and I will be reading the first one, Northern Lights, starting tomorrow, since it just arrived via inter-library…Continue

Tags: Fantasy, Catholic, Religion, Atheist, Pullman

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Sep 29. 39 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

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Comment by Ian Mason on January 22, 2013 at 8:14pm

I've no idea who Molly Ivins was but I love the quote.

Comment by sk8eycat on January 22, 2013 at 8:06pm

Alan, Re:

Worse, though, and by a lot, was the closing benediction. I don't know anything about the minister who gave it, but even if he's the most lefty of lefties his rhetoric was all about without god we can't even recognize our own goodness, dignity, worthy neighbors, etc. Hearing that just flat burned my toast. I couldn't turn the damn TV off fast enough.

I didn't hear the closing benediction; I'd already left the room...looking for the bottle of TUMS after the President claimed he'd sworn an oath to a fictional monster.

Do they really believe that childish nonsense?  Or do they think we're stupid?

(I'm still growling...) 

Comment by sk8eycat on January 22, 2013 at 7:19pm

Joan, I loved Molly Ivins; I have a stack of her books by my bed to read when I'm fed up with everything else.  What I really loved was when she and Ann Richards would get together on a panel discussion or something...they were a fantastic ad lib comedy team.

I miss them both.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on January 22, 2013 at 5:34pm

Joan, the Edward Current video, "What If God Disappeared?" is parody, poe, sarcasm, comedy, etc.  Mr. Current is a semi-well known YouTube video maker who mocks religion in a very dry and sarcastic tone while playing the character of a chrstian.  What can I say?  You've been duped. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 22, 2013 at 5:00pm

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 22, 2013 at 4:48pm

"No great idea in its beginning can ever be within the law. How can it be within the law? The law is stationary. The law is fixed. The law is a chariot wheel which binds us all regardless of conditions or place or time."

Emma Goldman

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 22, 2013 at 4:43pm

"What you need is sustained outrage...there's far too much unthinking respect given to authority."

~ Molly Ivins, 1944-2007

Comment by Ian Mason on January 22, 2013 at 3:11pm

Well said, Joan. Spot on. "A hit. A very palpable hit."

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 22, 2013 at 3:11pm

OK, it is confession time. I did not watch the inaugural speech of President Obama because he always says exactly the correct words that I want to hear, except he has avoided climate change and getting off fossil fuels far too long. 

The day of his first inaugural, he named his cabinet, all Wall Streeters. 

Just last month he named another Wall Streeter to replace Geithner. If he were going to change his philosophy, he would have named someone who included the needs of the working class as his advisors. 

I will watch closely what he does. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 22, 2013 at 2:59pm

Grinning Cat"What if God Disappeared?" by Edward Current.) My response:

Oh my goodness, Mr. Current, you have got to be writing sarcasm. “What if god disappears?” is about as foolish a statement as I have read. You are silly! Ludicrous!


“What would the world be like if god disappeared?”

Earth would remain the stunningly beautiful planet where life evolved from a single cell into the planet with water and flora and fauna and incredibly rich resources that brings us all we need to be healthy. We don’t have to invent the air, fire, water, and soil in order to survive; it is all here to use and to care for.


“If god disappeared we would instantly feel a huge void in our hearts.”

Perhaps you would, however there are legions of people who see no evidence of god in our experiences and certainly, your testimony provides evidence of shallowness of faith in a non-existent being. To have to create a god to feel “filled” reveals self-disrespect.


“We would feel empty, hopeless, desperate, like atheists feel today.”

Oh, my dear fellow, atheists feel exactly the opposite of what you describe. Your judgment and condemnation says more about you than it does about any atheist I know.


“If god disappeared missionaries in Africa and New Orleans would have no reason to help victims of malaria, AIDS and Hurricane Katrina.”

What about the missionaries in Africa who enabled the plunder of people and resources of those fine people; or who used the cruelest methods possible to cause submission of a proud people? Make them poor and then send missionaries to give them a spoon full of gruel and brag about it to the world. Do you brag about cutting off arms and legs of children and women whose men did not bring in enough rubber, or coal, or gold, or diamonds?

What about the exploitation of blacks by whites, creating a slave class and then maintaining a poverty class based on race. Are you proud of that history?


“The missionaries couldn’t benefit in the afterlife if they couldn’t do their work.”
Excuse me! Whites created the poverty of blacks by owning them as slaves and then keeping them down with fictional tales read from Bronze Age writings that condone slavery, plunder, rape, and murder because it pleases their god. Create poverty and then blame the victim for being poor. How foolish can one person be?


“If god disappeared there would be no reason to pray.”

Well, at least you have that correct. If there were no god, there would be no one to hear your prayers, no one to rescue you or reward you or punish you, and you would have to take responsibility for your own actions and have no redeemer to rescue you at the last minute before you die. Just imagine, you would be in heaven with other liars, thieves, rapists and murderers who were forgiven at the last breath. That is too easy!


“Success and failure in life would depend only on hard work and luck.”

I beg your pardon; are you telling me that the only people who succeed are those who believe in and have faith in an idea born of the Stone Age. We did not leave the Stone Age because we ran out of stones, we learned how to make and use tools and those made it possible to increase productivity and develop treatment for illness and injury. Your god is too small.


I have gone only 1:09 minutes into your foolishness and you can begin to see that I do not agree with you and I will not remain silent in the face of your ignorance, foolishness, or corruption.


Joan Denoo, 2013-01-22


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