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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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Degrees of Doubt: The Claims and Credentials of Ravi Zacharias (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris May 17. 1 Reply

Anyone here ever run onto an apologist by the name of Ravi Zacharias?  I've seen his name dropped multiple times on YouTube as supposedly being THE ONE APOLOGIST that no atheist wants to cross swords with, because of his facility with christian…Continue

Tags: Ravi Zacharias, Steve Baughman, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Most Hated Woman in America (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Gary S Apr 19. 7 Replies

Before Aron Ra and Matt Dillahunty, before Dawkins or Dennett or Harris or even Hitchens, there was Madalyn Murray O'Hair.  In the midst of an America where Christianity was being flaunted as a defense against the godless communists of the Soviet…Continue

Tags: Frank Zindler, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Madalyn Murray O'Hair

Proud Dad is REALLY Proud Now!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Todd Williams Apr 12. 16 Replies

As some of you may or may not know, my daughter is a television news producer, currently working in Nashville, Tennessee.  Her assignment is the morning news, which means she blasts herself up at umpti-ump in the morning to organize and prepare a…Continue

Tags: Emmy, news, television, daughter, dad

attacking ideas (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 1 Reply

Attacking ideas is a considerable portion of what we as atheists do.  Why attack ideas?  Ideas earn attack when they don't serve people, not just us but those who adopt said ideas, mistakenly thinking that they have value when they don't.  Our…Continue

Tags: ideas, Islam, TheraminTrees

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 40 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

The Playboy Interview: Richard Dawkins

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 28. 16 Replies

I suppose it was the news that Playboy magazine was returning nudes to its pages after a year's hiatus that sufficiently perked my curiosity to check them out again.  I hadn't looked at Playboy since perhaps 2008, when I began to recognize that I…Continue

Tags: Richard Dawkins, Playboy

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Comment by sk8eycat on April 28, 2013 at 7:05pm

Steph, I love the photo & caption.

I used to get that behavior when I would go cat-or-dog-sitting.  Especially from Mr. T. Devil; he would greet me at the door and then totally ignore me for 2 or 3 days.  That was when both my parents wre still alive and well but aging rapidly, and my sister is always here, so he was never left totally alone.  He was Dad's buddy, anyway; they used to sit in the recliner together and watch the news.  (Dad was a news junkie.)
 
I don't know why, but I mentioned it in a letter to Ginny Heinlein (Felaine! Name-dropping!  BAAAAD!) when we were exchanging examples of cat behavior, and she said he probably smelled the other animals on me, my clothes, my luggage.  So I tried washing everything and taking a shower as soon as I could after I got home.  Helped a little.  (At least The Devil never learned how to mark things the way intact tomcats do. *whew!*)
 
Melinda, I have dumped "friends" who annoyed me far less than Ms. "Tolerant/Intolerant" annoys you.  Her remarks about Catholocism sound like a much more complex (and boring) version of "Some of my best friends are (Jewish, black, Latino, gay, etc.)"   And you know damn well the only "friend" in one of those categories is maybe the woman who cleans her house once a week, or the guy who parks her car...  Do you ever wonder if Ms. Tolerance tells other people that "One of my best friends is an atheist"? 
I learned a long time ago that one way to find out who your real friends are is to tell them you're an atheist.  I once announced it to an entire office because everything (it seemed) in the garment district where we worked was closed on Good Friday/Passover. I saw one dropped jaw, and heard the 3 young men in my dept. laughing their butts off.  I loved them for that.
 
About my friend who gets annoyed whenever I say something about the incestuous relationship between our government and radical xians...maybe she finds that subject boring??????????  Or maybe she finds ME boring?  OMNerves!  I hope not!  She really is a good friend in all other ways.
 
Comment by Lillie on April 28, 2013 at 2:34pm

It is so funny the way our pets let us know it is not OK to leave them.  They may not speak our language but they can certainly let us know how they are feeling by their actions.  We are going on a short trip next week and I know we will get the temporary cold shoulder when we return.  Of course, a neighbor will keep them fed with a friendly pat on the head but apparently that is not the same.

Comment by Steph S. on April 28, 2013 at 2:06pm

Comment by Plinius on April 28, 2013 at 1:48pm

Thanks Flying Atheist, and a good weekend to all of you. I could even work in my veg roof garden today, at last it's turning green!

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 28, 2013 at 12:23pm

Melinda, thanks for "Everybody gets a drumstick."

Comment by tom sarbeck on April 28, 2013 at 10:09am

booklover: "I agree with Steph about better to have no friends than the wrong ones."

Unless you live in a small, bigot-laden town, I doubt it's necessary to have no friends. Years ago when my work was about to take my wife and me from Florida to Texas, my brother's wife protested that we would be leaving our friends. Surprised, I told her we would go out and make new friends. We did.

One exception, I find myself unable to make friends of ministers, priests, etc. I consider them swindlers.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 28, 2013 at 9:40am

I hope you're all having a good weekend.  It's finally warm and sunny here!!

Comment by Ian Mason on April 28, 2013 at 12:59am

Melinda, you've had all the good advice there is so I won't add more.

"Why do you care?" YES, that gets up my nose too. I care because that religious stuff is DANGEROUS. As soon as anyone believes that the "Truth", perfect and unquestionable, is out there the seed is sown for fanaticism. On top of that, believers expect respect for just being believers and religion is held to be above criticism. How often have we said that certain behaviour is unacceptable and been rebuffed with "but it's their religion"? Dennet's book "Breaking the Spell" goes into this in detail and if anyone hasn't read it, I can recommend doing so.

Comment by Lillie on April 28, 2013 at 12:07am

Melinda, I had the same thing happen with a friend who was becoming very pushy and dictatorial.  I began having other plans whenever she called.  Eventually she stopped calling.  You could tell your friend that alcohol no longer agrees with you and you would just rather not be around it.  Or more to the point you could tell her that it is becoming more difficult to discuss religion as you have moved so far from these discussions.  At any rate, I know you will be able to deal with this as you are becoming more confident in the direction your life is taking.  I like to think that A/N is playing a part in this.  Good luck.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 27, 2013 at 10:56pm

 

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