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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Donald R Barbera 2 hours ago. 35 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller Sep 6. 0 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

We Don't Want Your (Atheist) Money! (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 2. 17 Replies

I suppose I've heard stories like this before:Conscientious atheist donates money to worthy cause.Worthy cause initially accepts money.Worthy cause discovers source of donation.Worthy cause rejects donation.Swell, eh?  Well Matt Willbourne of…Continue

Tags: American Baptist Churches Association, Murrow Indian Children's Home, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly Sep 2. 3 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Are You a Patriot? (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris G Aug 29. 22 Replies

You might think that Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, would be stepping outside of her comfort zone in tackling the concept of patriotism.  As it turns out, not only does she have a proper handle on the term and its implications, she also…Continue

Tags: patriot, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

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Comment by Lillie on April 28, 2013 at 2:34pm

It is so funny the way our pets let us know it is not OK to leave them.  They may not speak our language but they can certainly let us know how they are feeling by their actions.  We are going on a short trip next week and I know we will get the temporary cold shoulder when we return.  Of course, a neighbor will keep them fed with a friendly pat on the head but apparently that is not the same.

Comment by Steph S. on April 28, 2013 at 2:06pm

Comment by Plinius on April 28, 2013 at 1:48pm

Thanks Flying Atheist, and a good weekend to all of you. I could even work in my veg roof garden today, at last it's turning green!

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 28, 2013 at 12:23pm

Melinda, thanks for "Everybody gets a drumstick."

Comment by tom sarbeck on April 28, 2013 at 10:09am

booklover: "I agree with Steph about better to have no friends than the wrong ones."

Unless you live in a small, bigot-laden town, I doubt it's necessary to have no friends. Years ago when my work was about to take my wife and me from Florida to Texas, my brother's wife protested that we would be leaving our friends. Surprised, I told her we would go out and make new friends. We did.

One exception, I find myself unable to make friends of ministers, priests, etc. I consider them swindlers.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 28, 2013 at 9:40am

I hope you're all having a good weekend.  It's finally warm and sunny here!!

Comment by Ian Mason on April 28, 2013 at 12:59am

Melinda, you've had all the good advice there is so I won't add more.

"Why do you care?" YES, that gets up my nose too. I care because that religious stuff is DANGEROUS. As soon as anyone believes that the "Truth", perfect and unquestionable, is out there the seed is sown for fanaticism. On top of that, believers expect respect for just being believers and religion is held to be above criticism. How often have we said that certain behaviour is unacceptable and been rebuffed with "but it's their religion"? Dennet's book "Breaking the Spell" goes into this in detail and if anyone hasn't read it, I can recommend doing so.

Comment by Lillie on April 28, 2013 at 12:07am

Melinda, I had the same thing happen with a friend who was becoming very pushy and dictatorial.  I began having other plans whenever she called.  Eventually she stopped calling.  You could tell your friend that alcohol no longer agrees with you and you would just rather not be around it.  Or more to the point you could tell her that it is becoming more difficult to discuss religion as you have moved so far from these discussions.  At any rate, I know you will be able to deal with this as you are becoming more confident in the direction your life is taking.  I like to think that A/N is playing a part in this.  Good luck.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 27, 2013 at 10:56pm

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 27, 2013 at 10:23pm

sk8eycat, you write, "I am so passionate about keeping religion out of politics" reveals that you have understanding about the long range consequences of mixing the two. 

Remember the physician, Dr. Ignaz Philipp Semmelweis, who realized doctors were infecting their patients with some unseen infections and tried to convince them to wash their hands between touching those who are sick. His colleagues laughed at him and called him insane. The poor man was committed to an asylum, where he died at age 47 after being beaten by the guards, only 14 days after he was committed.

Or remember the geologist, J Harlen Bretz, who published research papers in 1923 theorizing water caused the landforms in eastern and southern Washington state, even though there was no evidence of water that could have done it. Other geologists laughed at him and dismissed him. A man by the name of Joseph T. Pardee knew where the water came from. It wasn't until mid-1950s Bretz’s interpretations could no longer be ignored, and the geology society accepted his theory.

We are, today, at the place where people do not recognize the risk of mixing church and state. Either they don't remember history, or they believe some superpower will come to our rescue, or their economic futures are tied to the value of using religion to control the public. 

Observe the evidence; it is clear what side of the fence you are on and even if you stand alone, you are correct. 

 

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