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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Compelledunbeliever 3 hours ago. 37 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller Sep 6. 0 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

We Don't Want Your (Atheist) Money! (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 2. 17 Replies

I suppose I've heard stories like this before:Conscientious atheist donates money to worthy cause.Worthy cause initially accepts money.Worthy cause discovers source of donation.Worthy cause rejects donation.Swell, eh?  Well Matt Willbourne of…Continue

Tags: American Baptist Churches Association, Murrow Indian Children's Home, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly Sep 2. 3 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Are You a Patriot? (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris G Aug 29. 22 Replies

You might think that Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, would be stepping outside of her comfort zone in tackling the concept of patriotism.  As it turns out, not only does she have a proper handle on the term and its implications, she also…Continue

Tags: patriot, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

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Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 1, 2013 at 7:52am

It's May 1st, 68-degrees and sunny.  It finally officially feels like Spring!

Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 1, 2013 at 7:45am

I know the topic of population control is a touchy subject, especially for many religious people.  Having children is not only their god-given right, it's their god-given command.  I don't think we could ever legislate population control in the Western world the way it's done in China, but studies show that people who are more educated, monetarily viable, and less religious have less children.  It also helps if you don't have government trying to shut down women's health care clinics and denying access to birth control, as is the case in the US A particularly strong effort for birth control needs to take place in poorer communities and in 'third world' countries. 

Comment by Plinius on May 1, 2013 at 6:05am

Flying Atheist, talking about population control touches people's personal freedom, and it's a very emotional subject, perhaps more so than the horrible right to bear arms. When I ask people WHY they want to have children, I never get a rational answer - perhaps I shouldn't ask.

Years ago I was hospitalized and was sent into a ward with women who were treated for fertility problems. When asked I told them that I was there to have my tubes tied - they started to talk to me as if I wanted to steal something from them. When they couldn't convince me that I should have children they shut me out and wouldn't talk to me any longer.

I've always been happy not to have children; like any person I want to love and to take care of other beings, but there's no need to spend it only on my own family, or on my own species.

Comment by tom sarbeck on May 1, 2013 at 2:15am

Flying,

"...encourage more people to have less children.  Sadly, that topic never seems to be seriously mentioned as part of the equation."

China has for decades been dealing with it. Their solution: one-child families.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 1, 2013 at 12:06am

Joan, I really like that quote from David Attenborough.  When it comes to our environment and the earth's resources, there's always one big pink elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about:  population control.  In addition to wisely using the limited resources we have and finding ways to make them more efficient, we should also be discussing how we can encourage more people to have less children.  Sadly, that topic never seems to be seriously mentioned as part of the equation. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 30, 2013 at 11:06pm

Symphony of Science - "Children of Africa" (The Story of Us)

Featuring Jacob Bronowski, Alice Roberts, Carolyn Porco, Jane Goodall, Robert Sapolsky, Neil deGrasse Tyson and David Attenborough.

"This most successful of all mammals has exploited the environment to produce food for an ever increasing population. Instead of controlling the environment for the benefit of the population perhaps it's time we controlled the population to allow the survival of the environment."

~ David Attenborough
Comment by sk8eycat on April 30, 2013 at 10:24pm

Megan...Go to EvolveFish for all kinds of satirical variations of the xian stick-on fish.

About religion & public schools, IMO Comparative Religions should be taught everywhere, and I don't mean just the big-name ones.  High schoolers, at least, should be made to scrutinize the similarities of all the sun-godmen who were born of virgins, had 12 disciples (the signs of the zodiac), died and were reborn (the winter solstice and the vernal equinox)....and so on. Christianity is just another form of plagiarism.  Except they got the "golden rule" bass-ackward.  The older religions all stated it as : Do NOT do unto others that which you would NOT want them to do to you.  Makes more sense that way.

Comment by Megan S. M. on April 30, 2013 at 9:14pm

Haha I love all the cat pics!

I think I'll just put up a "Beware of Atheist" sign on my door, or maybe just Skeptic.. Atheist might get my house egged. But that should stop any BS sharers :p

Debra,

"If students want to become religious, spiritual or non-religious when they are older than that is fine.  Manipulating a child into believing what you believe against their own wishes is wrong.  Teach a child how to think, not what to think."

I totally agree with that statement.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 30, 2013 at 8:41pm

Felaine, thanks for the links to the tracts.  I should order some and pass them out on my way to work to the leaches who stand at the train station passing out "The Watchtower" magazine and their tracts.   

Regarding the Orange County story, it makes my blood boil every time I hear stories about religious groups wanting to pass out bibles at schools.  These religious people are as disgusting and pervasive as a roach infestation.  At least the FFRF is countering the attack with our own literature. 

Still.....I can't believe that the school district censored some of our material.  How to fix the problem:  keep the schools as an environment for learning (not religious recruiting) and the whole problem is solved. 

Why do we have to keep fighting these battles and putting out these continuous fires?  It's like a christian version of Whack-A-Mole.  I just want to pull my hair out.     

Comment by sk8eycat on April 30, 2013 at 7:49pm

Carl, you can get packets of "non-tracts" to hand out to the doorbell-ringers from  https://ffrf.org/shop/nontracts  They are $4 per dozen, or a sample pack of one each for the same price, and you don't have to be a member.

One of  my faves is "Cookie-Cutter Christs," a collection of short descriptions of earlier god-myths that are almost identical to the stories in the gospels.

And this is an interesting news item that I just received:

https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/17625-atheist-literature-t...

I hope they open up some minds and/or encourage kids who are closeted non-believers to hang onto their disbelief in the buybull belt.

 

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