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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller 3 hours ago. 39 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller Sep 6. 0 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

We Don't Want Your (Atheist) Money! (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 2. 17 Replies

I suppose I've heard stories like this before:Conscientious atheist donates money to worthy cause.Worthy cause initially accepts money.Worthy cause discovers source of donation.Worthy cause rejects donation.Swell, eh?  Well Matt Willbourne of…Continue

Tags: American Baptist Churches Association, Murrow Indian Children's Home, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly Sep 2. 3 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Are You a Patriot? (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris G Aug 29. 22 Replies

You might think that Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, would be stepping outside of her comfort zone in tackling the concept of patriotism.  As it turns out, not only does she have a proper handle on the term and its implications, she also…Continue

Tags: patriot, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

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Comment by Tony Carroll on May 2, 2013 at 11:10pm

Don't know if anybody likes the pipes, but I do. Found this one particularly entertaining, and wanted to share with you all.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 2, 2013 at 9:24pm

Ugh!!  I hate sitting through a prayer in a restaurant.  Been there, done that several times.  It's embarrassing. 

Melinda/Felaine, about 10 or 11 years ago I made the conscious decision to cut myself off from and rid my life of people who had nothing positive to bring into my life or that I didn't enjoy being around.  I was tired of not getting anything good in return for the effort I put out.  Perhaps to some people that sounds selfish, but my life has been so much better and less stressful as a result.  I just hate drama, unless it's in a movie.  Although I'm a nice, friendly and cordial guy (if I may say so), I'm careful and choosy about who I bring into my inner circle.  You two have done the right thing. 

Comment by sk8eycat on May 2, 2013 at 7:11pm

That one phrase is so true:

"...Christians are some of the most hateful people I know..."

I must admit that one couple I've been close to since jr. high (I was a bridesmaid at the wedding in 1958) who are very sincere about being a Baptist minister and Mrs. Rev., but they are still a lot of fun, and they don't get in my face about my atheism. They like me for myself.  That's all I ask from anybody.

Well, the Rev. does one thing that makes me feel awkward, when we have an informal reunion at the hamburger place where we used to hang out, he insists (doesn't ask) on ad libbing a sermon-length prayer while the fries get cold.  I refuse to bow my head, but I've never started eating while he's putting on his little show,  Maybe next time....

Oh, and they are very proud of being friends with Beverly and Tim LaHaye (of "Left Behind" fame)....and even though the Rev is retired, he still travels and substitutes at churches that need a temp.  And they never have to worry about where their next burgers and fries (and malts) will come from....

Comment by Steph S. on May 2, 2013 at 5:21pm

Comment by sk8eycat on May 2, 2013 at 11:58am

Please excuse all the typos in that last post. There's some rather expensive plumbing work going on out in the patio (replacing a broken pipeline), and it's freaking me out a bit.

I NEVER wanted to be a homeowner. 

Comment by sk8eycat on May 2, 2013 at 11:52am

Joan, you are the LAST person in here that I would call "hard-hearted"!

I have dumped a few basically nice friends in the last 40 years because they tried to drag me "back into the fold" in one way or another.  they were genuinely worried about the state of my non-existent soul, but I just couldn't hack what felt like nagging to me.  I finally just stopped returning phone calls, and when one came no my door one Sunday AM, I just blurted "What part of 'NO' don't you understand?" And quietly shut the door.  It was rude, but it worked.

Sometimes you just have to offend them to get them to quit bugging you.  If they want to discuss beliefs in a friendly way, will listen politely to my/your side of things, and don't proselytize, that's fine. They have to understand that faith in the invisible, unprovable, incredible isn't something one can turn on or off like a light.  I don't believe anymore because I can't. Simple as that.

I have also dumped a formerly close friend, not because of religion but because she's become completely racist, and I can't stand that, either.  I think she's reverting to her upbringing in the Deep South as she gets older.  *shudders*

So, my friend, we deal with truth, not wishful thinking, and the truth is that you and I know we don't have all that much time left... nobody knows exactly how much...but why should we waste it on people that make us uncomfortable?  That isn't hard-heaarted IMO, it's practical.  ;>)

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 2, 2013 at 11:19am
Tom, I understand your point about Dennett not finding a way to politely state his point of view. I share Dennett's value that religion causes more pain and suffering and is not made up by the good that it does. It is the dogma that I/he find so revolting and needing to be articulated out loud.
A very sweet neighbor of mine is a devout believer; I don't want to offend her, however, I do want her to hear my beliefs. If she is offended and if I lose her as a friend, What is, is. Maintaining a relationship or a friendship just doesn't matter that much to me. Guess I am hard hearted, even as I do hear the cries of the world caused by religious beliefs.
Comment by Joan Denoo on May 2, 2013 at 11:17am
Tom, I understand your point about Dennett not finding a way to politely state his point of view. I share Dennett's value that religion causes more pain and suffering and is not made up by the good that it does. It is the dogma that I/he find so revolting and needing to be articulated out loud.
A very sweet neighbor of mine is a devout believer; I don't want to offend her, however, I do want her to hear my beliefs. If she is offended and if I lose her as a friend, What is, is. Maintaining a relationship or a friendship just doesn't matter that much to me. Guess I am hard hearted, even as I do hear the cries of the world caused by religious beliefs.
Comment by Steph S. on May 2, 2013 at 10:35am

Comment by Plinius on May 2, 2013 at 4:20am

And menopause is a blessing, thanks mother nature! Some ten years before that, I was at last old and ugly enough that men could talk to me without being distracted by thinking about seks with me: what a relief! I could talk to them and sometimes they even understood me...

 

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