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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Compelledunbeliever 11 hours ago. 37 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller Sep 6. 0 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

We Don't Want Your (Atheist) Money! (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 2. 17 Replies

I suppose I've heard stories like this before:Conscientious atheist donates money to worthy cause.Worthy cause initially accepts money.Worthy cause discovers source of donation.Worthy cause rejects donation.Swell, eh?  Well Matt Willbourne of…Continue

Tags: American Baptist Churches Association, Murrow Indian Children's Home, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly Sep 2. 3 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Are You a Patriot? (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris G Aug 29. 22 Replies

You might think that Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, would be stepping outside of her comfort zone in tackling the concept of patriotism.  As it turns out, not only does she have a proper handle on the term and its implications, she also…Continue

Tags: patriot, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

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Comment by sk8eycat on September 26, 2013 at 10:05pm

Steph...what I did today: Took a friend to a local pub/restaurant (owned and operated by a Scottish/British  ex-pat family); I had Bangers & Mash, and I am so full I can hardly move.  Had a GREAT time!   *;) winking

Comment by sk8eycat on September 26, 2013 at 10:01pm

For all I knew, the stories we were taught in Sunday school could have been written by Hans Christian Andersen or the Brothers Grimm. 

We started going to church when we moved to Burbank when I was in kindergarten. Dad wanted to establish himself quickly because he was planning to open his own accounting practice, and joining the local church was one way to do that.  It happened to be a very relaxed place, more into having community social events than telling us we were going to burn in hell.  Dad and the minister hit it off immediately, and the Rev. made him Treasurer...Rev. had been doing the books himself, and was overwhelmed.  Actually, we didn't call him "Reverend" anything... he was Mister to everybody.  (Well, he was "Art" or "Arthur" to the grownups.)

I think I was in 4th or 5th grade when I rebelled and refused to go to church any more.  I was having dance classes almost every day after school and all day on Saturdays, and I said I wanted a Day Off. 

I don't know if I ever really believed in god or Jesus, I just wasn't interested. I tried to believe when I was in high school...tried very hard, but I just couldn't.  I'd listen to my classmates when they got up and "witnessed" during services (this was at a totally different church...Bapnit), and wondered why none of that stuff ever happened to me.  I was so naive that it never occurred to me that they might be lying.

(re-posting to correct some typos.  I have an orange purr-monster between me and the keyboard.)

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 26, 2013 at 5:18pm
sk8eycat, "In the beginning....we lied."
Yes, I think that correctly names the situation. One lie leads to another and pretty soon everything gets so chaotic, no one can separate the fabrication from fact ... unless, of course, one throws out the entire belief system and goes with direct observation and critical thinking, with experimentation and doubts.
Comment by Steph S. on September 26, 2013 at 4:08pm

How is everyone?

I'm reading all the posts here. I hope everyone is having a good week so far.

Comment by sk8eycat on September 26, 2013 at 3:08pm

If Eve was cloned from Adam's rib (there are 2 versions of her creation in Genesis, but the "mental" people only read the 2nd one), then she/he was having sex with him/herself.

My question later was, where did Cain's wife come from...he supposedly killed his brother and went to another town...HOW was that town populated?

"In the beginning....we lied."

Comment by sk8eycat on September 26, 2013 at 2:35pm

FundaMENTAList xians truly believe that "there are many things that kids are not meant to know."  Particularly science.  That's why they want financial help from the gov't to send their kids to private schools that turn out idiots just like them.

Once youngsters learn that the earth was not created in 6 days, they start asking questions, and won't settle for evasive answers.

Most of the atheists I know were raised in much more religiously restrictive homes than I was.  As a comparison, on xmas morning they had to wait for their fathers to finish reading the buybull before they could open their presents.  My sister and I had to wait for Dad to set up the camera and take at least one roll of photos of the tree, the fireplace, us, etc. before we could rip into everything.

I've always felt embarrassed when people prayed before meals, especially in restaurants. 

Comment by Ian Mason on September 26, 2013 at 3:21am

Nothing wrong with your ego Napoleon :-D

My favourite street in the whole world: Charing Cross Road, London. It's where most of the good bookshops are. There's a good selection of second-hand especially. I always go hunting there whenever I'm in England.

Comment by sk8eycat on September 26, 2013 at 1:23am

Yeah, I'm a bookaholic, too.  My parents were...one of my fondest early-childhood memories is Dad reading me to sleep every night till I learned to read for myself.

I sometimes tell people who ask me what church I go to that it's the Public Library. 

Comment by sk8eycat on September 26, 2013 at 12:37am

Absolutely!  I remember the days when publishers were delighted to have books "Banned in Boston." T'was a surefire guarantee that they would be bestsellers everywhere else.

But small-minded people push my "Rant" buttons.  Or as Bree, the writer of "Think Banned Thoughts" blog says, I put on my ranty-pants.

She wrote an excellent blog post a few months ago about the danger of "protecting" children too much.  Every parent of small children should read it.  http://thinkbannedthoughts.wordpress.com/2013/08/09/five-words-that...

In fact I recommend her entire blog very highly.

Comment by sk8eycat on September 25, 2013 at 11:05pm

I just got an e-mail about a North Carolina school board banning this book from a high school library because ONE parent wrote to one board member and said it was “filthy.” I didn’t know where else to howl about it. . But really….

Invisible Man is a novel by Ralph Ellison, published by Random House in 1952. It addresses many of the social and intellectual issues facing African-Americans early in the twentieth century, including black nationalism, the relationship between black identity and Marxism, and the reformist racial policies of Booker T. Washington, as well as issues of individuality and personal identity.

Invisible Man won the U.S. National Book Award for Fiction in 1953. In 1998, the Modern Library ranked Invisible Man nineteenth on its list of the 100 best English-language novels of the 20th century. Time magazine included the novel in its TIME 100 Best English-language Novels from 1923 to 2005
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This is twenty-effing-thirteen, and school board members are still more concerned with kissing voters' rear ends than educating young men and women.

I'm so glad I'm old.

 

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