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Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller yesterday. 39 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller Sep 6. 0 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

We Don't Want Your (Atheist) Money! (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 2. 17 Replies

I suppose I've heard stories like this before:Conscientious atheist donates money to worthy cause.Worthy cause initially accepts money.Worthy cause discovers source of donation.Worthy cause rejects donation.Swell, eh?  Well Matt Willbourne of…Continue

Tags: American Baptist Churches Association, Murrow Indian Children's Home, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly Sep 2. 3 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Are You a Patriot? (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris G Aug 29. 22 Replies

You might think that Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, would be stepping outside of her comfort zone in tackling the concept of patriotism.  As it turns out, not only does she have a proper handle on the term and its implications, she also…Continue

Tags: patriot, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

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Comment by Ian Mason on May 3, 2014 at 1:52pm

Joan, the best SF revovles around "what if?" ideas. As an example, a Star Trek episode where Lwaxana Troy falls for a man who's culture expects self-administered euthanasia when a person reaches a certain age. This is considered a preventative measure, ensuring that no-one suffers the indignities of dementia and the like. The burgeoning romance leads to a conflict of course but the main point is "what if?" How do we cope with situations where the rules and norms are different? Writers like Isaac Asimov, Kurt Vonnegut, Philip K Dick, Ursula LeGuinn and Iain M Banks are masters of this and are well worth reading. Launch yourself into a new adventure - it's worth it, I promise.

Hope you have a pleasant time indoors with the family, Patricia. Drinking hot cocao while looking at a snow-covered landscape is a simple but sublime pleasure.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 3, 2014 at 12:14pm

Ian, I should have said there is a lot of bunk in OUR culture that needs debunking. Sorry for my mistake. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 3, 2014 at 12:11pm

OK! OK! OK! My education is stunted. You guys sure know how to wake up an uneducated old woman who wears diabetic shoes, shaves her head, and likes "Somewhere over the Rainbow" and Judy Garland. 

I have made a list of your music likes, am downloading them into iTunes and will commence my musical education. 

Now, as to sci-fi and other outrageous fiction, you might have something to offer me; I am even willing to give that damnable fiction a try. It seems you wise men and women enjoy it and there must be some reason for all your wisdom. But this! You have to be kidding!

Hehehe 

Comment by Ian Mason on May 3, 2014 at 9:16am

Just got through the local ½ marathon. A slowish time but there are lots of hills and a strong headwind. My son-in-law also took part and now he, my daughter and her mother are going to eat here. Very nice.

Comment by Loren Miller on May 3, 2014 at 8:47am

My wife and I finally got around to trying Piada last night, and I have to say ... not bad at all!  I had a Steak Piada (a "piada" might as well be an Italian burrito!) with diavolo sauce (not too hot, but nice character!), chopped romaine and Parmesan - excellent!  My wife had their Chicken Fritte Pasta bowl, also with diavolo sauce and some other accents - also pretty darn good!  I should also mention that my side dish was their Lobster Bisque - not much lobster, but the proper bisque taste was absolutely there.

If you've got one of these places within shooting distance, I'd say absolutely give 'em a try!

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 3, 2014 at 12:35am

Ian, Yes, you have talked about Randolph before, but not this story, if I remember correctly. In any event, there is a lot of bunk remaining in your culture that needs de-bunking. 

I like the way you put it, "A 'stop, look, listen, breathe, enjoy' day is something we don't value enough."

Comment by Ian Mason on May 2, 2014 at 11:41pm

Lots of really good posts that make me smile. Thank you very much.

Joan, I might have mentioned this before but here goes: Randolph Churchill (Winny's son) once read the Bible for a bet. His reaction: "Isn't God a shit?!" Even as a child I wondered about that Egypt story. Why did God harden Pharao's heart? Wouldn't it have been easier to soften it and avoid all the deaths? While there might be some semi-pleasant platitudes scattered through That Damn Book there's f-all common sense most of the time, only generous amounts of malice.

I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed your Day of Reason, doing the things that give you pleasure and giving yourself the time to soak up the everyday beauty of your surroundings.A " stop, look, listen, breathe, enjoy" day is something we don't value enough.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 2, 2014 at 10:12pm

Seeing pain and suffering is not an invitation to turn away, but to reach out and offer a hand of kindness.

~Joan Denoo

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 2, 2014 at 10:10pm

Now, on to the celebration of living with reason as a guiding force, an energy that resides within us, for our benefit, and for the health of civil society and public affirmation of a national day of reason. 

The National Day of Reason, a secular celebration for 

Agnostics, Atheists, Brights, Freethinkers, Humanists, Rationalists, Secular Humanists, Skeptics, Spiritual Humanis. 

Celebrated on the first Thursday in May of every year.

Activities include food drives, blood donations, call for an end to prayer invocations at government and public meetings, public schools meetings and graduations. 

I spent National Day of Reason in my garden clearing tiny little spots at a time, doing more sitting that clearing, listening to birds and watching them tend their nests. The squirrel has figured out how to eat from the birdfeeder and the good news, the feeder is still hanging from a blue spruce limb. He watched me secure it so he couldn't just lift the feeder off the hanger. He couldn't throw it to the ground to eat at his pleasure. He sat in the mugho pine and scolded me for stopping his theft from the birds. 

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on May 2, 2014 at 9:33pm

Ian mason, I love that quote from Arundhati Roy so much, I’m adding it to my pictures.

As for being judgmental, I think it’s critical to distinguish person from behavior. That’s jargon for respecting the person even though you judge a given behavior as wrong or harmful. You can put someone up and put down a bad behavior at the same time, since human beings aren’t perfect – none of us.

Sk8eycat, I love the cat version of Michelangelo’s Sistine Chapel.

Great rant, Joan. I get into moods like that fairly often myself, usually over sexism and Climate Destabilization.

LOL, you infected me with a meme.

 

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