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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Compelledunbeliever 7 minutes ago. 30 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller Sep 6. 0 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

We Don't Want Your (Atheist) Money! (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 2. 17 Replies

I suppose I've heard stories like this before:Conscientious atheist donates money to worthy cause.Worthy cause initially accepts money.Worthy cause discovers source of donation.Worthy cause rejects donation.Swell, eh?  Well Matt Willbourne of…Continue

Tags: American Baptist Churches Association, Murrow Indian Children's Home, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly Sep 2. 3 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Are You a Patriot? (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris G Aug 29. 22 Replies

You might think that Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, would be stepping outside of her comfort zone in tackling the concept of patriotism.  As it turns out, not only does she have a proper handle on the term and its implications, she also…Continue

Tags: patriot, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

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Comment by The Flying Atheist on August 21, 2014 at 8:53am

Thanks, Randy, I was a little stunned myself! 

I love the phrase "geewillikers."  Little Jimmy from The Cinnamon Bear radio serial in the 1930's used that expression.  Any of you (if you'll pardon the expression) old-timers remember Jimmy & Judy searching for the silver star for the top of their christmas tree?  That was always a perennial favorite to listen to during December.  

Comment by Randall Smith on August 21, 2014 at 7:43am

Geewillikers, I take a day off from the computer (with grandson), and I miss all sorts of news--good and bad.

Carl, your kidney situation stunned me. Goodness, I hope you can return to some sense of normalcy in the coming weeks. 

Hang in there, Mindy. Try not to worry or think about any prognosis.

Ian, I'm envious!

Comment by Ian Mason on August 21, 2014 at 3:34am

I have returned! Been on a lovely visit to England. Had a smashing time with some of the family, eating, drinking lots of tea and relaxing. Also managed to squeeze in 2 art exhibitions, 1 Shakespeare play and 1 prom concert. It don't get much better.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on August 20, 2014 at 7:28pm

That's good news, Mindy.  Sorry you have to have all this back-N-forth to Madison, but I guess it is worth it. 

BTW, I was thinking......next time you use your health as an excuse to get out of a family function, call me.  I will do the same and we can get together for a movie night.  lol

Comment by The Flying Atheist on August 20, 2014 at 10:35am

Well, despite my vow to embrace turning 50 years old last month, it has hit me like a ton of bricks.  lol    While recuperating, I have only been leaving the house to get food and supplies or to keep my numerous doctor's appointments.  Yesterday, I went to the eye doctor.  I'll be wearing glasses full-time now to correct vision problems I've been having.  No big deal, though.  I'm kind of looking forward to getting them in two weeks.  I'll be able to read books again!

Comment by The Flying Atheist on August 20, 2014 at 10:17am

Thanks, everyone, for all your words of support.  It means a lot to me.  I know I can come here and find a receptive ear when needed. 

Joan, my panic attacks seem to be under control now that my kidneys are stabilized.  I'm definitely feeling calmer and more at ease.  Knowing what the problem is and having it taken care of is half the battle, physically and mentally. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 20, 2014 at 9:29am

Carl, this dreadful news must have hit you hard, even though your body was probably sending you messages for some time. I am so grateful the doctor caught it before a heart attack or some other dastardly event. You are a smart fellow and know how to research and ask questions and seek information so that you can take as complete control as possible. 

The trick now is to feel that you are not a victim, but a warrior taking on a challenge of a lifetime. Each day, each moment, you have things to do to help correct the malfunction of your kidneys. It is very easy to fall into a depression, I did, and get help with that immediately. Don't think it will go away with positive self-talk. Depression is far more insidious than that. 

I/we am/are with you, dear friend, able and willing to read whatever you feel like pumping into the computer. We are survivors. More importantly, we are the thrivers of the world. We flourish in the face of illness, disaster, misfortune. Life is more than our illness. 

It is a good idea to get help with panic attacks. It usually takes only short term care to get over them, but it does require a skilled practitioner. 

Comment by Plinius on August 20, 2014 at 3:20am

That's horrible news, Carl! I hope you feel better already now your treatment started!

I hope your check up brings good news, Mindy!

And thanks for the info, Joan! Your country has got a recipe for disaster, and I hate to think that our government wants to copy that recipe.

My pc is away for repair - I forgot to copy favorites and e-mail adresses, so I hope it will be back soon.

And I surely have the most nervous black cat in the world; last Sunday there was a big fire some  7 kilometres away, but the smell of it was in our house when we came home. Dido had been worrying and he couldn't pee once more. Luckily I had the medicins for it! 

Comment by sk8eycat on August 20, 2014 at 12:48am

Oh.  I thought you said (some time ago) that you had once flown into BUR, and had to take a shuttle (or something) to OC or LAX.

In any case, get well, wave as you fly over....OK?

Comment by The Flying Atheist on August 20, 2014 at 12:10am

Joan, for quite a long time I've been experiencing muscle weakness, especially in my knees and legs.  Over the past two years I have fallen or tripped easily.  I just found out this is due to a particular enzyme not being flushed out of the body by the kidneys.  I've also had bouts of panic attacks and racing heart beat and hypertension.  I've also had no energy and was very lethargic.   

A couple of weeks ago I was ordered to the emergency room by my doctor after some lab results came back.  I was having kidney failure.  I also had an extremely high potassium level which was giving me an erratic heart beat.  I was on the verge of having a heart attack as a result of the kidneys not getting rid of excess potassium.  Lucky this was all caught in time before any of this became fatal.  I was pretty close at that point. 

My condition was stabilized in the hospital. Now that I'm home I am recuperating, but it will take some time.  I'm still feeling very weak.  Side-effects from my drugs includ horrible insomnia, shortness of breath, terrible swelling in my legs and feet and a general feeling of lethargy and lack of concentration.  I also have an insatiable thirst which causes me to drink a lot which then causes me to urinate frequently. 

As of today I'm at the half-way point of two months away from work.  Hopefully during the next month I will continue to progress nicely as the medication side-effects start to diminish.

You are correct, Joan, this condition is mainly controlled by eating a low-sodium diet and keeping my blood pressure down   

Sk8eycat, hopefully one day soon I'll be back flying over your house.  However I've never flown into Burbank.  We only fly into LAX and Orange County out of Chicago O'Hare.  Believe me, If I flew into Burbank, I'd pick you up and take you to lunch. 

 

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