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11 "unanswerable" questions for atheists - answered (Aron Ra)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Jun 6. 1 Reply

If you spend any time around YouTube and have any history of looking at atheist material (or even theist material!), you will inevitably run into: "XX Questions Atheists Can't Answer."  These are occasionally followed by: "XX Questions Atheists…Continue

Tags: apologist, answer, questions, unanswerable, Aron Ra

worshipping narcissists (qualiasoup & theramintrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Jun 3. 1 Reply

They're all around us: people who perceive the world as revolving around them and will go to considerable lengths to make it so: narcissists.  Such beings have been with humanity, I suspect, since humanity emerged from the gene pool.  Even worse,…Continue

Tags: narcissist, QualiaSoup, TheraminTrees

Secular and Reclaimed Winter Holiday Songs

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat May 2. 42 Replies

This is an appropriate day of the year for this subject...What are some of your favorite winter holiday songs?It would be especially good to share powerful new secular lyrics to tunes that have become associated with Christmas.…Continue

Tags: singing, lyrics, reclaimed, reclaiming, HumanLight

appropriating morality (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo May 1. 7 Replies

We've all heard the claim: "Human morality comes from god."  And we've all seen for ourselves what Yahweh's "morality" looks like, from condemnations of homosexuality and the treatment of women as chattel to inexplicable sanctions against the eating…Continue

Tags: morality, appropriating, TheraminTrees

Bible Belt Atheist (New York Times)

Started by Loren Miller Apr 19. 0 Replies

The following showed up in my YouTube feed this morning, and I decided to have a look.  Turns out, the New York Times has given us a reasonably even-handed look at a good friend of ours, being one Jerry DeWitt, former bible-thumper and now a pretty…Continue

Tags: Bible Belt, atheist, Jerry DeWitt

How would you respond?

Started by Christina Scribner. Last reply by Christina Scribner Apr 10. 5 Replies

So, this morning, I was at my local coffee shop as I am most weekdays between bus runs. I do the editing on my husband's books so I had my laptop with me. My wallpaper is a picture I found online sometime back of a double helix with the word atheist…Continue

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Comment by alexa penzner on August 25, 2011 at 8:32pm
that's the way i thought they were going to put it - on the side - if it's standing straight up - that i don't like at all !!!!  it's not a monument - it's a statement of religion.  i'm amazed they're going to do it that way.  i sure wouldn't want to see the d--m thing that way !!!!
Comment by Natalie A Sera on August 25, 2011 at 8:00pm

I LOVE your idea, sk8eycat (ailurophiles rule!). If it were placed so, it would be just a fragment of the destruction, and not a religiously preferred symbol.

Rev, I sang in the choir of an Episcopal church for 3 years for anthropological and financial reasons. They were wonderful about not making me wear a cross, because I could not do it and stay honest with myself. I also didn't genuflect in front of the cross. And when the priest did the ritual of splashing water on the congregation to re-enact Jesus' baptism, he looked me in the eye, and said, "Duck, Natalie!". :-)  I am not anti-religion, I just don't want it imposed on me in any way, shape or form. I want to be first, a citizen of the world, second, a citizen of the US, and third, a member of my own ethnic group. I welcome the voluntary opportunity to observe and enjoy other people's beliefs and customs, but I want to do that on my own terms, not theirs.

Comment by sk8eycat on August 25, 2011 at 7:59pm

Thanks, Rev.  You know it would never happen.  Christians love to obsess over death and torture, and revere the symbols.

 

Was it Lenny Bruce (I loved him!) who said that if Jeebus had been killed in the 20th Century, Christians would all be wearing little electric chairs on gold chains?

Comment by Chris on August 25, 2011 at 7:55pm

Some of the girders I saw (on TV) from the remnants would be the best reminder of how the towers remained, but it doesn't matter anymore. The entire thing has become a myth and religious battle.

 

Comment by Rev. Richard Watkins on August 25, 2011 at 7:42pm
I think that would be an excellent compromise, sk8eycat.
Comment by sk8eycat on August 25, 2011 at 7:40pm

Hmmm...two pieces of steel that just happen to cross each other at right angles.  Maybe instead of standing it in a "t" shape, they should put it on its "side," to look like an "X"....then it would have no religious meaning, and just be a reminder of the devastation.

 

Maybe?

 

Of course people would scream....

Comment by Chris on August 25, 2011 at 7:39pm

It's unfortunate that G.W. Bush called for a Crusade.

That movement continues with The New Apostlic Reformation 

 

 

Comment by Rev. Richard Watkins on August 25, 2011 at 7:34pm
Well I have to clear a couple things up. Like FSM, FCoA is a joke. There is no real established church or rules to abide by...it's simply a playful thumbing-the-nose at other churches. The reason I became ordained was so I could marry some homosexual friends of mine.

As for hiding the cross from public view...I think that's rather counterproductive. Religion should be brought out into daylight and exposed for what it is. We want people to freely discuss and debate religion, not hide it away in private for it to fester and grow stronger. Free criticism of religion should be encouraged and I think bringing religion into the context of terrorism one of the best things for atheism. Additionally, putting the cross in the WTC memorial is not an action meant to represent Christianity over all other religions. It's there as a relic of the devastation and an example of something the people clung to. It's a representation of the event, not a representation of people.

Hiding religion in a dark corner is dangerous. Full-out attacks on religion only make people cling to it tighter. The best weapon against religion is to bring discussion to it, not take it away from discussion.
Comment by alexa penzner on August 25, 2011 at 7:02pm
it's a very touchy issue - i agree with those you say leave it alone and pick our battles. thanks michael.
Comment by Chris on August 25, 2011 at 6:12pm
Christians are big on symbolism and revel in Manafest Destiny. It's interesting how much the Republican and Democratic parties have changed over the years. Here's a link to the Christian Flag:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Flag
 

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