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Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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Mental health in the age of violence: Dr. Elliott Ingersol

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randall Smith 9 hours ago. 1 Reply

I literally just discovered Dr. Elliott Ingersol yesterday, as a part of a discussion I had with other members of the Northern Ohio Freethought Society.  Dr. Ingersol is a licensed psychologist and clinical counselor in Ohio, as well as a professor…Continue

Tags: talk, psychotropic, therapy, psychology, Elliott Ingersol

maggie and milly and molly and may (Edward Estlin Cummings & Eric Whitacre)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Nov 20. 2 Replies

It's amazing what you discover when you go looking for something you had no idea you'd find.  On an impulse, I pulled up Eric Whitacre's website to see if he had created any new pieces.  It would seem that he has: a song cycle called The City and…Continue

Tags: e e cummings, Eric Whitacre

There Is Only One Way to Destroy ISIS

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Nov 18. 1 Reply

There Is Only One Way to Destroy ISISGrowth in population, policies and practices that create a gap between the typical person and the wealthy,…Continue

Passive and Active voices

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Nov 16. 1 Reply

Have you noticed that much of the discussion in families and with friends, in the print media, on TV, and now on the internet is in the Passive Voice? Many people whine, complain, gripe, accuse, blame, call names, ridicule, grumble, bitch, rebuke,…Continue

Tags: and, behaviors, communication., attitudes, learned

Detroit Businesswomen Team Up to Get Rape Kits Tested

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by The Flying Atheist Nov 14. 2 Replies

Detroit Businesswomen Team Up to Get Rape Kits Tested"In 2009, a Wayne County assistant prosecuting attorney noticed…Continue

Tags: women, Enough, SAID, black, victims

Something Beautiful – Nathan Phelps & Seth Andrews

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Nov 10. 7 Replies

And it is beautiful, too, indeed, I think some of Seth Andrews' best work.  Interesting point: rather than Seth's dulcet baritone doing the narration, this piece presses Nathan Phelps' deep bass intonation into service, bringing a different flavor…Continue

Tags: Nathan Phelps, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, beautiful, something

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Comment by Plinius on May 9, 2014 at 2:07am

Difficult days for Ruth, Ian and Mindy. I had one of those days yesterday. We had a meeting about and with brother-in-law, plus a therapist, a psychologist, etc. He has been a model patient till last week when he picked a quarrel with a nurse.... about nothing of course, but he is also an Asperger patient. So when everyone wanted to discuss and organize things, brother-in-law was screaming murder and repeating every unimportant detail in a voice that could be heard in the whole building. So today I am dizzy with a blinding headache. It depresses me very much, having to care for someone to stubborn to see what needs to be done. 

My story - who's next? ;-S

Comment by Ian Mason on May 9, 2014 at 12:58am

Rant away, dear friends. It's good to get those feelings out and know that others understand. I hope you are ready to get back into the fray. My poor sister-in-law in England, who isn't a well woman to start with, has been driven close to distraction by the pure incometence she's had to battle with r.e. my mother. Private care-home, public social services, seem to care about doing a decent job except those at the basic, hands-on carer level. With that kind of work (the same job I have) when the shit hits the floor (literally) there's only you to clean it up. No telephone, computer or paperwork to hide behind.

Hugs, understanding and good wishes to all.

Comment by sk8eycat on May 8, 2014 at 11:59pm

I have only Medicareless parts A and B...NO Rx insurance (Part D). When that first went into effect, my doctor warned me that it was a scam to benefit the pharmaceutical and insurance companies, NOT the patient.  Pharmaceutical companies are required to provide prescribed meds to low-income patients at no cost, and no questions asked, except one's total annual household income.  My sister and I are so far below the poverty level that we're I've been getting my diabetes meds from Pfiser for free for 14 years. 

And we can get proper groceries once a month from a local aid center (NOT the county "food bank," that hands out mostly carbohydrates and sugary cereals)...IF  I can get a ride, and help carrying the bags.

I just feel guilty asking friends for a ride...but I became frightened of driving my huge old car a few years ago, so I sold it to a junker...and now I beg rides, or take taxis.  (It cost me $40 ...including go to my doctor today.)

The good news is that my A1c has been perfect for more than a year...the bad news is that I've gained 12 lbs since February.  I don't know how I did that...haven't changed my diet at all.

And that's my rant for now.  I need to share some hugs with you all...sounds like we need them.


Thank you.  <3

Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 8, 2014 at 11:45pm

Geez, Ruth.  I know exactly how you feel.  I think we've all had to put up with that type of treatment, and not just from he medical industry.  I hope your situation finally gets resolved to your satisfaction.  In the mean time. if you need to rant, you know we're here for you.  

Mindy, my grocery budget certainly seems to get less bang for my buck these days as well.  I go to the store, spend a wad of money, and when I get home, it seems like I hardly have anything to show for it.  I don't have a car, so thankfully the grocery store is basically right around the corner.  I'm there several times a week buying what I can walk home with.  I consciously try really hard not to buy frivolously since a large portion of my food bill is spent eating out while traveling, which is obviously more expensive.

I hope Sunday morning you'll once again be attending services at The Church of the Internet Provider.   

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on May 8, 2014 at 10:14pm
... people can't , or don't, do their jobs right...

That describes my morning, booklover. I was on the phone for the fifth time to Highmark Blue Shield, trying to get them to send my endocrinologist a form, so she can appeal a drug exclusion. The first three forms they claimed they'd faxed "disappeared". This process has involved two dozen calls over three weeks, not counting busy signals, hang-ups when on hold, or "out to lunch" responses.

Today I learned that Blue Shield's policy is to fax a blank form to one of the doctor's offices. Like many specialists, she has three or four offices, which are each shared with five or so other doctors. So they fax a blank form with no cover letter to a random office, and the patient gets lost in the cracks. Without the doctor's name or the patient's name, or the name of the denied drug, there could be thousands of possibilities. Their phone agents sound so helpful and cheery, which in retrospect seems a cruel irony.

This morning the doctor's staff finally found the third form, and claimed they can't use a blank form. "No we can't fill it out." Claimed they needed a denial letter. Eventually I got Blue Shield to call them. No guarantee that worked. After all of this, they'll probably reject the appeal.

I was thinking about how the right wing is so against government bureaucracy. But all of this bureaucracy was caused by private companies, quite deliberately. Every time I called Blue Shield I was forced to re-verify every single identifying datum in my file, even if I'd just talked to someone there two minutes ago. And the damned phone tree had four nested levels, at least two of which required re-verifying which button you'd just pushed, which made half a dozen mechanical back and forth transactions till you'd get a phone line to a human being, who'd insist on your going over every fact in your file.

Felt like my head would explode by the end.

Thanks for listening to my rant.

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Comment by sk8eycat on May 7, 2014 at 7:46pm

I'm sort of reliving my long ago days in fandom when I had the money to co to a convention or two a year.  I usually got some of my money back by working the art shows (and then blew it all bidding on drawings and the occasional painting.)

Comment by Grinning Cat on May 7, 2014 at 3:44pm

And for those who don't follow the group "Food!", I was glad to learn about the dark and funny filksong "Beware of the Sentient Chili" (video) (lyrics). Thanks, sk8eycat!

Comment by Grinning Cat on May 7, 2014 at 3:19pm

A lot to catch up on here! Thanks, Felaine, for sharing Mercedes Lackey's witty song "Dark and Stormy Night".

And thanks to Idaho Spud for sharing (in "No Nonsense") a concise, clear video explaining why we need to defend net neutrality. It affects us all, not just geeks.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 7, 2014 at 1:03pm

Mindy, I don't know how it is now, but when I travelled in Europe, I bought a railroad pass and went all over Europe without a hassle. Then jump on a flight or ferry to Ireland and do the whole adventure at minimum costs. It is fun to get off the train at interesting looking spots and just wander around. Eat in local restaurants, even if they don't speak English. Just look around until you see a dish that someone is eating that looks interesting to you, point to it for the wait staff, and before you know it, you have discovered something different and mostly tasty. Sometimes you eat something that isn't appetizing to your pallet, but what the heck, you only live once. 

I don't think there is the problem with money exchanges now with the Euro. When I adventured there, every time we crossed a border I had to get money exchanged. Someone else will have to advise you on that. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 7, 2014 at 11:37am

Patricia, Aurora, beautiful name for a beautiful daughter. 

Ian, The Earth's climatic changes explain much of history's human story. Cosmos covers the events that made it possible for Africans to leave the continent and migrate east and north by moderation of climate. 

Ramesses the Great, had vast gardens, farms, forests, armies, "was the third Egyptian pharaoh of the Nineteenth dynasty. He is often regarded as the greatest, most celebrated, and most powerful pharaoh of the Egyptian Empire."

Percy Bysshe Shelley wrote of Ramses II in Ozymandias
"Look on my works ye Mighty, and despair! 
    No thing beside remains. Round the decay 
    Of that Colossal Wreck, boundless and bare, 
    The lone and level sands stretch far away."

What were once abundant fields of crops now reveal only sand.  


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