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Secular and Reclaimed Winter Holiday Songs

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat May 2. 42 Replies

This is an appropriate day of the year for this subject...What are some of your favorite winter holiday songs?It would be especially good to share powerful new secular lyrics to tunes that have become associated with Christmas.…Continue

Tags: singing, lyrics, reclaimed, reclaiming, HumanLight

appropriating morality (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo May 1. 7 Replies

We've all heard the claim: "Human morality comes from god."  And we've all seen for ourselves what Yahweh's "morality" looks like, from condemnations of homosexuality and the treatment of women as chattel to inexplicable sanctions against the eating…Continue

Tags: morality, appropriating, TheraminTrees

Bible Belt Atheist (New York Times)

Started by Loren Miller Apr 19. 0 Replies

The following showed up in my YouTube feed this morning, and I decided to have a look.  Turns out, the New York Times has given us a reasonably even-handed look at a good friend of ours, being one Jerry DeWitt, former bible-thumper and now a pretty…Continue

Tags: Bible Belt, atheist, Jerry DeWitt

How would you respond?

Started by Christina Scribner. Last reply by Christina Scribner Apr 10. 5 Replies

So, this morning, I was at my local coffee shop as I am most weekdays between bus runs. I do the editing on my husband's books so I had my laptop with me. My wallpaper is a picture I found online sometime back of a double helix with the word atheist…Continue

The Fake Christian Busybody Show (Andrew Bradley)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Plinius Apr 9. 1 Reply

It seems as though there was a Gay Pride parade in some town somewhere and a Christian commentator, herein known as The Activist Mommy, apparently got her panties so in a bunch about it that she had to fire up her video camera and record a…Continue

Tags: gay, pride, The Activist Mommy, Andrew Bradley, America's Best Christian

America Held Hostage: Day 436 (MisterDeity)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Apr 9. 1 Reply

Now that Sinclair Broadcasting has stated their position regarding fake news and its threat to our democracy, Mister Deity's Brian Dalton has decided to throw his $0.02 worth in as well ... though I don't quite think his presentation was really what…Continue

Tags: fake news, Deity, Mister, Broadcasting, Sinclair

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Comment by Joan Denoo on February 5, 2016 at 11:34pm

"Theism declares that God dispenses health and inflicts disease, and sickness and illness are regarded by the Theists as visitations from an angered Deity, to be borne with meekness and content. Atheism declares that physiological knowledge may pre- serve us from disease by preventing us from infringing the law of health, and that sickness results not as the ordinance of offended Deity, but from ill-ventilated dwellings and workshops, bad and insufficient food, excessive toil, mental suffering, exposure to inclement weather, and the like — all these finding root in poverty, the chief source of crime and disease; that prayers and piety afford no protection against fever, and that if the human being be kept without food he will starve as quickly whether he be Theist or Atheist, theology being no substitute for bread."

~ Charles Bradlaugh, A Plea for Atheism

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 5, 2016 at 8:32pm

I am in a natural period of living when one easily reflects on life, its meaning (none), its purpose (none). I gave time a good strong run, naming and challenging the ethics and morals of centuries of family violence. So many opportunities opened up for me and I danced with them all. My dancing is more of a shuffle these days, but, hey! I am still alive!

This reflection is a cheerful time, by golly, I pulled it off. I raised my children to adulthood and they have developed into fine, decent people. Whew! Some said I couldn't do it! Hot Damn! I did it!

I begin the final chapter now and I could not be happier. 

Carl, all three of my children are now 51 years old. 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on February 5, 2016 at 6:46pm

Joan, count me in on liking the Bradlaugh quotes as well.

Sounds like you are very busy these days.  I find it very difficult to start rummaging through old, personal memorabilia.  I sit down and start reminiscing, losing the time and effort I put forth for the initial task. 

I very much like looking at mementos left behind by my relatives from previous generations.  I've held onto some of my own items as well so those who follow me can have a physical reminder and insight of who I was as a person when I was alive. 

I haven't led a "rock star" life, nor have I had an earth-shattering effect on this world, but I've had the privilege and luck to have lived an interesting life.  Perhaps my future, and unknown at this time, relatives will find interest in discovering who I was within my time and place.       

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on February 5, 2016 at 5:44pm

I like your Bradlaugh quotes, Joan.

Thanks for sharing you clearing out of 40 years. I admire the way you move on confidently into the future.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 5, 2016 at 5:09pm

Boxes, boxes everywhere, bookcases empty, China stacked, getting ready for packing. We're cleaning out the pantry, refrigerator and freezer. 

Ran across some notes in books that I wrote years ago. Times were different then, the economy was thriving, the family was growing into adulthood and caused me some worry. Silly of me, looking back and realizing they turned out OK. I didn't need to fuss. 

Also ran across the correspondence I had with a psychiatrist at the U of WA when we got the diagnosis of Cary's brain disorder. That started a couple of years of learning how to deal with his behaviors. My job was to train him to be able to manage on his own when he was an adult. He is 51 now and I think he will function just fine with help from sister after I am gone. 

We are looking for a condominium to buy for Cary. We looked at many different options and this seems to be the one that meets everyone's needs. 

Thinking back over these past 40+ years, has been rewarding. I met many challenges and came through them the best I could. I didn't do too badly.  

Now, what do I do with 40+ years of accumulating treasures here and there. There is my book collection that is enormous. Craig wants some of the research papers and my collection of Mexican pots, Laura wants my spice rack so that will go north with me. We have a wall where we can install it. 

 

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 5, 2016 at 4:48pm

"While the Theist provides future happiness for a scoundrel repentant on his death-bed, Atheism affirms present and certain happiness for the man who does his best to live here so well as to have little cause for repenting hereafter"

~ Charles Bradlaugh, A Plea for Atheism

I like the way this guy writes. 

 

Comment by Ian Mason on February 5, 2016 at 4:03pm

Positive words, Joan and very true.

Auto da fe = act of faith. If that's faith I want no part of it.

I will translate a cheerful poem soon.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 5, 2016 at 3:48pm

“I maintain that thoughtful Atheism affords greater

possibility for human happiness than any system yet based on,

or possible to be founded on, Theism, and that the lives of true

Atheists must be more virtuous — because more human — than

those of the believers in Deity, the humanity of the devout believer

often finding itself neutralised by a faith with which that humanity

is necessarily in constant collision. The devotee piling the faggots

at the auto da fé of a heretic*, and that heretic his son, might notwithstanding be a good father in every other respect (see Deuteronomy xiii, 6-10). Heresy, in the eyes of the believer, is highest criminality, and outweighs all claims of family or affection.

Atheism, properly understood, is no mere disbelief: is in no

wise a cold, barren negative; it is, on the contrary, a hearty, fruitful

affirmation of all truth, and involves the positive assertion of action

of highest humanity.”

~ Charles Bradlaugh, A Plea for Atheism

https://ia600708.us.archive.org/29/items/APleaForAtheism/bradlaugh_...

burning at the stake (or auto-da-fé)

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 5, 2016 at 11:04am

Chris, it doesn't sound like a liberal government to start new coal power plants. It sounds like Luddites refusing to modernize. 

"Liberals believe in government action to achieve equal opportunity and equality for all. It is the duty of the government to alleviate social ills and to protect civil liberties and individual and human rights. Believe the role of the government should be to guarantee that no one is in need. Liberal policies generally emphasize the need for the government to solve problems."

Conservative vs. Liberal Beliefs

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 5, 2016 at 10:56am

@Plinius @Ian Mason, I just saved your poems and reading them again gave me the shivers, your talents amaze me. Your way with words evokes vivid images. 

 

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