Hang With Friends

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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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Issues Atheist, Feminist, GLBTQ, Climate Change

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by BenGee on Saturday. 3 Replies

This is a test Continue

The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly Oct 20. 15 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Oct 17. 2 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

A moment to relax and see the Earth from space; some how this comforts me.

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Qiana-Maieev Oct 16. 3 Replies

All the squabbles and struggles that I have do not compare with those of some others on this great planet. There are no boundary lines, no political arguments, no up or no down. What is, is. For right now, the scenes offer tranquility. Just the…Continue

Tags: and, wonder, awe, of, space

His Dark Materials and the Catholic Church

Started by Tonya R. Wheeler. Last reply by Plinius Oct 16. 27 Replies

I recently watched the movie, "The Golden Compass" and since I could not find the sequels, I read the books. I enjoyed them, and I will be reading the first one, Northern Lights, starting tomorrow, since it just arrived via inter-library…Continue

Tags: Fantasy, Catholic, Religion, Atheist, Pullman

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Sep 29. 39 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

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Comment by Ian Mason on September 21, 2014 at 2:25pm

Joan/Felaine: having worked in elderly care for 18 years, I've met quite a few people who "enjoy" their illnesses. It means that they're no longer responsible for anything. I myself used the same tactic when I was active as an alcoholic - "I suffer from depression,therefore no-one can expect me to stop drinking".

A pictorial version, by Schutz:

Comment by sk8eycat on September 21, 2014 at 4:49am

Joan, my mother was born in 1905...the middle of 8 children...5 boys and 3 girls.  (Two of them died before age 18...scarlet fever)

  She quit school after the 8th grade to help feed the family. but she never stopped learning...married an MBA from USC (I think he became a closeted atheist somewhere along the line)....was an avid reader. was as thrilled as I was by the Apollo moon landings....but she was also something of an Oklahoma fundie...but stopped dragging me to Sunday School when I complained about not having a "day off" when I was about 10 or 11.

In her later years she went back to reading the buybull, and listened to Gene Scott on a tiny radio (with earphones.)  I don't know if she was more perturbed by my atheism (I made no secret of it) or my sister's JW obsessions.  She specifically said "NO funeral" when it became obvious that her body was failing...

We had no service for Dad, either.  (Pissed off his sister, who married "the son of a preacher-man.") And I paid off my membership with the Neptune Society years ago.

And that's the troooooooththththth,

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 21, 2014 at 3:40am

k.h. ky, when I was a member of the Presbyterian church, we had sessions after sermons when the pastor would meet with anyone who wanted to discuss his sermon. When I would bring up the use of man, I interpreted that as excluding women. The pastor vehemently claimed that man meant men and women. I would respond with something like, "If you mean men and women, then say men and women". He was a stubborn man, with absolute belief in scripture and dogma, and out of stubbornness, I suppose, or maybe out of principle, he never included women when he said man, meaning man and woman. 

The old fart! During one of his sermons, I got up and walked back. The bell had rung for me, I knew I did not belong there. The siren sounded in my head, and I had no other choice, but to leave ... for good. I had some doubts at first, I expected a bolt of lightning to hit my chair, but no such thing ever happened and I am content with my decision. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 21, 2014 at 3:27am

People respond so differently to having cancer or any life threatening disease. Felaine, your mother clearly was a troubled woman and caught in cycles of helplessness and hopelessness. At least with cancer, she could exploit the disease. Your description of her sounds so familiar. People learn how to think of themselves very young and I am wondering about the quality of parenting she had. People growing up at the time she was had very little access to mental health care and if she was born into a dysfunctional family, she probably didn't have any way to see beyond the traditional. 

The good news is, you live in an enlightened age and know how to access resources in order to change the patterns that pass from generation to generation, just as genes pass along. Behavior is different, it is a learned behavior and learned behaviors can be replaced with healthy functioning. 

I am so sorry your sister has Asperger's disease. I know you learned all you could about it, and that is about all you can do. She is a reality in your life. She must create a lot of stress for you. You manage so well, you deserve a lot of credit for your care of her. You are one of the unsung heroes that provides care without complaint, and understands her condition. That is about all you can do. 

Comment by Plinius on September 21, 2014 at 1:51am

There was no one like Orwell to help you see patterns.

Comment by Ian Mason on September 21, 2014 at 1:09am

So, anyone who criticises the Catholic church is a right-wing fanatic. Odd how we others didn't realise that.

Hitchens has been aknowledged, even by those who oppose him, as one of the best users of the English language in writing and debate. He said himself that his biggest influence was Orwell, another champion of clear and simple statement.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on September 20, 2014 at 1:03pm

Thank goodness we have books written by Christopher Hitchens and so much audio/visual material of him as well.  His words are timeless even though he is no longer here. 

Comment by k.h. ky on September 20, 2014 at 12:54pm
Joan, isn't it ironic, and self serving, that the term 'man' is taken so literally in that book?
Comment by Joan Denoo on September 20, 2014 at 12:53pm

Let's not forget Hitchen's incredible comments of his opinions and the futile attempt of the questioner to stop him. He refused to stop, continued with his narrative and made valid points that people do to silence truth tellers. Hitchens shows that Religion causes otherwise morally sound people ...

Comment by The Flying Atheist on September 20, 2014 at 12:53pm

I want to correct a mistake I made in an earlier post.  I stated that Chicago's cardinal George compared the gay community to Nazis.  That was wrong.  He compared the gay community to the KKK.


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