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What Annoys God Most? (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat 19 hours ago. 10 Replies

Long story short, it's those near misses, the almost-but-not-quite, close but no cheroot moments, or, would you believe ... Near Death Experiences!  So what's the big deal?  Betty Bowers, America's BEST Christian and self-proclaimed expert on such…Continue

Tags: Near Death Experiences, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

degrading love — part one (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Nov 22. 11 Replies

Love is by many considered among the highest of positive emotions.  Yet when love of the type offered by deities is examined, something seems to go seriously wrong.  The love of Yahweh seems less a gift than a demand, not so much beneficence as a…Continue

Tags: TheraminTrees, god, love

Ning, Error 500s, and Whether to Migrate

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 13. 47 Replies

I just got the following notice from Ning yesterday, (31 October, 2016), in the wake of this latest website outage:As some of you may be aware, we experienced a system outage earlier this morning. The cause was due to a specific network…Continue

Tags: downtime, Atheist Nexus, Ning

Introducing Douglas Murray

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Nov 7. 4 Replies

Most of us who have been around atheism for a while know the heavyweights of our ilk.  Names like Hitchens, Dawkins, Dennett, Harris, Dillahunty and AronRa get nearly daily mention in posts and discussions on Atheist Nexus.  One name I was…Continue

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If There's a God - She's a Woman - The Author T

Started by Joe. Last reply by Chris Nov 3. 4 Replies

I came across this story and thought some here might find it interesting and humorous.It’s titled:If There’s a GodShe’s a WomanFrom the Series:Things You Can Learn from a VaginaIts on the website TheAuthorT.com under the tab, “Free to Read…Continue

His Dark Materials and the Catholic Church

Started by Tonya R. Wheeler. Last reply by k.h. ky Oct 30. 35 Replies

I recently watched the movie, "The Golden Compass" and since I could not find the sequels, I read the books. I enjoyed them, and I will be reading the first one, Northern Lights, starting tomorrow, since it just arrived via inter-library…Continue

Tags: Fantasy, Catholic, Religion, Atheist, Pullman

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Comment by k.h. ky on June 28, 2014 at 11:54pm
Love that cartoon Joan.
Comment by Joan Denoo on June 28, 2014 at 11:18pm

Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 28, 2014 at 10:03pm

Felaine, I found this online copy of Ingersoll's Some Mistakes of Moses.  Thanks for the recommendation.

https://archive.org/details/somemistakesmose00ingeuoft

Comment by sk8eycat on June 28, 2014 at 4:41pm

No, my Flying Friend, I don't have Susan Jacoby's book on American Freethought; I have a very battered old copy of the Orvin Larsen biography of Ingersoll, American Infidel.  It is still considered the best, most thoroughly researched (and footnoted), of all the biographies of the Great Agnostic of the 19th Century.

I have another one of Jacoby's books...something about "American Unreason;" I haven't been able to finish it...it's so depressing.

I doubt that Ingersoll would be able to hold an audience for 2+ hours today...our attention spans are much more limited and conditioned to the constant babble of sound bites and one-liners, and the constant need to get wherever we are going as quickly as possible (crammed into seats designed for skeletons), whether it's good for the environment and our psyches or not.

Sigh.  Off I go on another hobby-horse.

George Carlin was off to a good start, but his audiences were smaller (not counting his few HBO appearances), and he got off to a late start on his criticism of religion.  At least we have his recordings.... 

Lenny Bruce also did a short bit called "Religions Incorporated" that touched off a small firestorm here in SoCal, but it was about a local issue, and probably meant nothing to anyone outside of the Los Angeles area. (It was about the land that Dodger Stadium still occupies today...the JWs wanted it for a cemetery.)

So there have been short bursts of iconoclasm, but nothing as cogent and lasting as Ingersoll's 30-year career touring the contiguous US...even...or especially...in the buybull belt.  People hungered for his views on the absurdities of both testaments.  He was scathing about the addition of hell which was the only original contribution of xianity.

I could go on and on, but read Jacoby, and then try to find a (used) copy of American Infidel.  You can buy a new copy from the FFRF bookstore, but I prefer bargain-hunting at Half.com.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 28, 2014 at 2:12pm

Felaine, you must have forgotten about the ever-important and obviously true phrase, "With God, all things are possible." 

BTW, I have Susan Jacoby's book The Great Agnostic, Robert Ingersoll and American Freethought here in my pile of books waiting to be read.  It came highly recommended.  Have you read it?

Comment by sk8eycat on June 28, 2014 at 12:14pm

Mindy, whoever created that meme for Cheezburger should have phrased it "ILLITERATE tribal goat herders."  Because they were.

150 years ago Robert Ingersoll (and others) pointed out that Moses could not possibly have written the Pentateuch because, at the time of the non-exodus, the Hebrews had no written language.  So the fabled stone tablets of the 10 Demands would have been unreadable, among other things.

I keep mentioning Ingersoll in here because he was a phenomenon, considered by many (including his enemies) as the greatest orator at a time when that was considered a high art, not just for what he said, but the way that he said it.  People hung from girders and jammed SRO sections of large venues to hear him speak for 2 hours or more on subjects that are still considered (by some) as shocking.

"Some Mistakes of Moses" is one of his best, most popular lectures, and it's available in trade paperback as a separate book.  Well worth reading, and keeping.  In it he shreds, slices, and dices the first 5 books of the buybull; good stuff to have on hand when confronted by fundamentalists of any persuasion.  Or just for laughs.

He was an iconoclast, but he was also very much the gentleman.  We need him today.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 28, 2014 at 8:58am

Mindy, your post didn't come onto my wall, but the link was in the incoming mail. Perfect statement! I am reposting. Thanks. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 27, 2014 at 12:32pm

Randall, yes! and he was bold, not afraid to take risks, refused to submit to intimidation. My worst enemies in my fight against family violence was and is my family. They want me to remain silent. Get over it, they say, and move on. The problem is, too many men and women submit to the imperative that men should dominate ... women and nature. 

Well, you and I know where that gets us. We need to be spokespeople for those too timid or too indoctrinated to face the truth of human-caused climate change, oppression of women, domination by wealth in our political arena as well as our economic and beliefs domains. 

Comment by Randall Smith on June 27, 2014 at 7:06am

Ol' Theo (he didn't like being called Teddy) was a Democrat in Republican clothes. He was one of my presidential heroes. He could certainly write!

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 26, 2014 at 8:55pm

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." 

~ Theodore Roosevelt, The man in the arena, excerpt from the speech “Citizenship in a Republic”, delivered at the Sorbonne, in Paris, France on 23 April 12010.  

 

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