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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Compelledunbeliever 23 hours ago. 37 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller Sep 6. 0 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

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We Don't Want Your (Atheist) Money! (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 2. 17 Replies

I suppose I've heard stories like this before:Conscientious atheist donates money to worthy cause.Worthy cause initially accepts money.Worthy cause discovers source of donation.Worthy cause rejects donation.Swell, eh?  Well Matt Willbourne of…Continue

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The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly Sep 2. 3 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

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Are You a Patriot? (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris G Aug 29. 22 Replies

You might think that Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, would be stepping outside of her comfort zone in tackling the concept of patriotism.  As it turns out, not only does she have a proper handle on the term and its implications, she also…Continue

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Comment by Ian Mason on January 14, 2014 at 12:59am

I think there can be a substantial difference between ignorance and bigotry.

 a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially :  one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

There's a lot of things I don't know but am willing to try to understand. I probably have opinions that will change if I find new information or a convincing arguement but bigotry comes from a closed mind that enjoys hating.

Yes, we are in this together and it's time some people woke up to that .Xtian and capitalist values? "The ruling ideology of any era is the ideology of the ruling class". Marx.

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 13, 2014 at 10:08pm

Napoleon, it was 1930. Not so very long ago. And lynching continued.

'THE LAST LYNCHING' In the Bad Old Days, Not So Very Long Ago

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 13, 2014 at 10:03pm

Carl, thank you for including the lyrics to "Hanging Tree". The words wrench one to the core, and cannot be denied.  

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 13, 2014 at 10:00pm

Mindy, I agree with you when you said, "I called her friend a bigot, and I think she's dumb."

Now, what are your alternatives? remain silent? state your thinking? pretend it doesn't matter? act as if you respect their points of view?

What is it that you want to happen? Do you want to stay in communication? or do you want to state your position and let nature take its course? or force the issue, stating your right to your thinking and your rationale? or do you want to change to their position? or do you want them to change to your position?

Once you have these questions answered, you know exactly what to do, and you will be able take action that prevents you from being a victim.  

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 13, 2014 at 9:53pm

Mindy "against homosexuality" is like being against blue eyes. They both are aspects of the same thing ... evolutionary forces that exist in our gene pools. Just throw the dice, and a change occurs in our genetic makeup. To be "against homosexuality" reflects lack of education. When people speak from ignorance, they commit a ignorance fallacy.

According to The Free Dictionary, lack of education is defined as: ig·no·rant  (gnr-nt) adj.

1. Lacking education or knowledge.
2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge:
an ignorant mistake.
3. Unaware or uninformed.
a :  destitute of knowlede or education;    
also :  lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified <parents ignorant of modern mathematics>
b :  resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence em>ignorant errors>
— ig·no·rant·ly adverb
— ig·no·rant·ness noun
Comment by The Flying Atheist on January 13, 2014 at 9:40pm

Joan, you and I just posted the same thing at the same time.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on January 13, 2014 at 9:38pm

Yes, Napoleon, lynching was still happening here in the southern U.S. into the 1920's and even later.  So, yes, those are "modern" people in that photograph.   

That particular photograph was taken on August 7, 1930 in the state of Indiana.  As stated in this Wikipedia article, that photograph was the inspiration for the song "Strange Fruit" referenced below. 

Most lynchings occurred during the period of 1890 through the 1920's.  This Wikipedia article, Lynching in the United States, has a detailed history.   

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 13, 2014 at 9:36pm

Napoleon, the photo of this lynching is real. 

"Lawrence Beitler  (1885 - 1960, 74 years[1]) was a studio photographer who on August 7, 1930, took a photograph of the lynching of Thomas Shipp and Abram Smith, which has become an iconic representation of the history of the period. In 1982, 64-years later, James Cameron published A Time of Terror.[2]"

The Emotional Psychology of Lynching

It is a part of USA history that cannot be denied. Nor can the role of religious hatred. They come from the same ball of string.  

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 13, 2014 at 4:26pm

Replace that barbaric image of hangings with one of life as a gift to be celebrated. 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on January 13, 2014 at 3:54pm

Joan, thanks for posting the Billie Holiday song.  That's one of her quintessential songs that elicits disturbing images that, unfortunately, portray a reality that was common in our recent past. 

Powerful words.......

Billie Holiday – Strange Fruit Lyrics

Songwriters: FROST,DAMON/PHIRI,AARON /
Southern trees bear a strange fruit,
Blood on the leaves and blood at the root,
Black bodies swinging in the southern breeze,
Strange fruit hanging from the poplar trees.

Pastoral scene of the gallant south,
The bulging eyes and the twisted mouth,
Scent of magnolias, sweet and fresh,
Then the sudden smell of burning flesh.

Here is fruit for the crows to pluck,
For the rain to gather, for the wind to suck,
For the sun to rot, for the trees to drop,
Here is a strange and bitter crop.
 

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