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Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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maggie and milly and molly and may (Edward Estlin Cummings & Eric Whitacre)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Nov 20. 2 Replies

It's amazing what you discover when you go looking for something you had no idea you'd find.  On an impulse, I pulled up Eric Whitacre's website to see if he had created any new pieces.  It would seem that he has: a song cycle called The City and…Continue

Tags: e e cummings, Eric Whitacre

There Is Only One Way to Destroy ISIS

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Nov 18. 1 Reply

There Is Only One Way to Destroy ISISGrowth in population, policies and practices that create a gap between the typical person and the wealthy,…Continue

Passive and Active voices

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Nov 16. 1 Reply

Have you noticed that much of the discussion in families and with friends, in the print media, on TV, and now on the internet is in the Passive Voice? Many people whine, complain, gripe, accuse, blame, call names, ridicule, grumble, bitch, rebuke,…Continue

Tags: and, behaviors, communication., attitudes, learned

Detroit Businesswomen Team Up to Get Rape Kits Tested

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by The Flying Atheist Nov 14. 2 Replies

Detroit Businesswomen Team Up to Get Rape Kits Tested"In 2009, a Wayne County assistant prosecuting attorney noticed…Continue

Tags: women, Enough, SAID, black, victims

Something Beautiful – Nathan Phelps & Seth Andrews

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Nov 10. 7 Replies

And it is beautiful, too, indeed, I think some of Seth Andrews' best work.  Interesting point: rather than Seth's dulcet baritone doing the narration, this piece presses Nathan Phelps' deep bass intonation into service, bringing a different flavor…Continue

Tags: Nathan Phelps, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, beautiful, something

Your favorite photobombs?

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Oct 27. 14 Replies

Running of the bulls photobomb.Continue

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Comment by Tony Carroll on May 1, 2013 at 5:47pm

And this is him with his first band, Dare. On the far right. No video, couldn't find one. But a good pic.

Comment by Tony Carroll on May 1, 2013 at 5:26pm

Joan. Here is Brian Cox and D:REAM on TOTP 9Top of the Pops).

Band is so-so, but Brian is rockin' the long hair!

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 1, 2013 at 5:23pm

 Sidney M. Gonzalez, I agree wholeheartedly with your statement, 

"I do not believe that science alone can give purpose and direction for human life."

There is no quarrel there at all. People find a sense of meaning, purpose and direction many ways. If someone believes some power gives them direction, that is perfectly OK with me. Just don't impose it on me, or judge me by those lights. I am pretty good at rejecting such impositions. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 1, 2013 at 5:20pm
Melinda, Isn't it fun to be with people you don't have to self-monitor in order to have a good conversation. Good for you.
Please define "hump-day". I have not heard it before.
Comment by Joan Denoo on May 1, 2013 at 5:11pm

Melinda, Can you imagine, a grown up adult has many options. 

1. Follow the teaching of a Bronze Age, desert goat herder; 

2. Look at the evidence: 7,113,921,600+ humans alive on the planet and quickly running out of food growing capacity; 

3. Consider getting tubes tied and a vasectomy.

Our response to them: 

I think it would be perfectly appropriate to hold them accountable for overpopulating the Earth. They should be ashamed of themselves.  

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 1, 2013 at 3:38pm
Patricia, that is the best video I have seen in a very long time. If lower animals can do it, so can Homo sapiens.
Comment by Joan Denoo on May 1, 2013 at 3:35pm

"Patricia, Brian Cox on his days as a rocker......

Thanks Patricia. Oh this is hilarious, "Rock-star physicist" Brian Cox works on the Large Hadron Collider at CERN, looking for the Higgs Boson, and he can't find a red car in a parking lot at Disney Land. I suppose that story trails him wherever he goes. 

Now, can you find any of his music?

I like the idea of music and science being very closely related. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 1, 2013 at 3:26pm

Sidney M. Gonzalez, a fair and good question and one I happily address. 

"why should anyone care about other people’s illusions?"

I don't care or have any interest in what others believe. However, when people or institutions express disagreement, I have the responsibility and opportunity to express my thinking, and do so without hesitation. When their beliefs intrude upon mine, when they want to bring their beliefs into public education or into marriage laws, or into family planning laws, I will not only challenge them, I do so with every bit of thought and action I can muster. I was not born to follow other's ideas, it is my responsibility to think through issues and arrive at conclusions I am willing and able to defend. I have paid a heavy price for my independent thought; It was worth it. 

"And what method does Dennett use to determine that complete strangers, people he, you and me, don’t know have dedicated their lives to an illusion;"

Dennett used his ability to think, reason, compare, contrast, discuss, and all the other critical thinking tools he, and everyone has. It is his responsibility to speak his truth; whether others agree or disagree is up to him to think about and arrive at his conclusions. If Dennett observed a person putting filthy, dirty hands into a wound, would he not be obligated to intervene?

"an illusion about what?"

There are so many delusions we encounter in life: the young Earth, a personal god who answers prayers, virgin birth, god, angels, resurrection, sun standing still in the heavens, a man created from dust and woman created from a rib, to start populating the world, a flood where everything died except what was on a boat, god giving tablets to some sheep herder on a barren desert mountain, god parting the seas. Oh, I am getting tired and I haven't even started on Buddha yet. 

Let's just cut to the chase. We live on an incredibly beautiful Earth that exists because of natural forces beyond our control. Human beings now have the power of destroying all this vast life as we know it. Human will probably not survive, and sharks and cockroaches  have already survived five known extinctions. 

Human beings continue to use power-over instead of power-with, to our detriment. We are no better than the eagle catching a rabbit or a snake eating a rat. We continue to act like humans are made only of claw-and-beak power, instead of realizing we have a frontal lobe in our brain that means only 1% different than the DNA of our closest primate in the super family Hominoides, Apes. That one% should be recognized as being capable of moving beyond apes into a whole new realm. Instead, we dead-end at Hominoides, Apes. There will have to be more evolution in the Homo sapiens sapiens family if we are to  see the end of Obama-GW Bush-Clinton-GHW Bush, Reagon and other war mongers. 

We have a gift given to us without any intervention on our part. It is our responsibility to take care of it or lose it. 

"why should anyone care about other people’s illusions?"

That is why!

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 1, 2013 at 2:51pm
It appears my favorite physicist, Brian Cox, plays or played keyboard in Labour's favourite band, D:Ream. I Googled those names and find nothing. Anyone from here know how to listen to Brian on keyboard?
By the way, I encourage you to watch his "Wonders of Life series. He acknowledges the role religion played in history and how it is necessary and positive to replace the information part with science. I doubt he would deny people the comfort they receive from prayer and belief in god, but quite frankly, I don't know how a scientist can be a believer in delusions. He does not.
Comment by Joan Denoo on May 1, 2013 at 2:34pm

Carl, you go in the direction of thought that works for me:

"but studies show that people who are more educated, monetarily viable, and less religious have less children.  It also helps if you don't have government trying to shut down women's health care clinics and denying access to birth control, as is the case in the US A particularly strong effort for birth control needs to take place in poorer communities and in 'third world' countries. "

Education is definitely part of the answer and the challenge is to find ways that do not dictate. You are correct about keeping open and safe all women's health care clinics and promoting family planning. 

Freethinkers, like herding cats, may not work, however, there may be an answer through promotion of critical thinking as a societal good. 

When I was in China, Chinese women wanted family planning and they have a very good contraception program ... short of killing live births, which they do. That goes too far for my value system. Women want family planning and men want sex. Now, how do we resolve that dilemma? 


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