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bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller 16 hours ago. 39 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller Sep 6. 0 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

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We Don't Want Your (Atheist) Money! (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 2. 17 Replies

I suppose I've heard stories like this before:Conscientious atheist donates money to worthy cause.Worthy cause initially accepts money.Worthy cause discovers source of donation.Worthy cause rejects donation.Swell, eh?  Well Matt Willbourne of…Continue

Tags: American Baptist Churches Association, Murrow Indian Children's Home, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly Sep 2. 3 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

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Are You a Patriot? (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris G Aug 29. 22 Replies

You might think that Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, would be stepping outside of her comfort zone in tackling the concept of patriotism.  As it turns out, not only does she have a proper handle on the term and its implications, she also…Continue

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Comment by Ian Mason on September 28, 2013 at 5:53am

The pies these days are made with meat. Eels, hot or jellied (my prefered) are eaten separate. There was a time when you could buy live eels too.

Comment by Plinius on September 28, 2013 at 2:04am

That is real food that helps your body, Joan and Sk8eycat! I have been on paleofood - low-carb no ready-made food - for two years now, and  feel much better because of it.

Comment by sk8eycat on September 28, 2013 at 12:49am

Ian, I went to the link, too, and I thought,  "EEL pie?!!? Eww."  What does it really taste like with eels?  Fishy, or savory with herbs?

My dad used to make a New England favorite; Codfish Patties, but they are about 50% mashed potato, and deep fried.  I loved them.

My all-time favorite fish is halibut, oven-baked with just salt & pepper, or smoked, but it's become more expensive than Filet Mignon. 

I like barbecued (slightly smoky) salmon filet, but the last time I ate salmon I had a gout attack (same with shrimp... dammit!).  I will avoid ANYthing rather than have my left foot swell up like a boxing glove.

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 27, 2013 at 11:53pm

Ian, I know, those dishes eaten as a child growing up, then abandoning thinking they were old fashioned, only to be reclaimed as we age and eaten as comfort food, bring pleasures that modern foods do not. 

The crash of the eel population sounds serious. I wonder what caused it. I have not eaten eel pie and mash; we did have pasties with left over roasted beef, potatoes and vegetables. They are good!

Comment by Ian Mason on September 27, 2013 at 11:12pm

Mindy, that's sweeter than anything Hubble has produced.

Bangers and mash, bubble and squeak are things I grew up with and sometimes make myself when I'm feeling nostalgic.

Here's something I like to indulge in when in England:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pie_and_mash

Comment by Steph S. on September 27, 2013 at 11:12pm

That is an interesting story Tony - looks like you took care of them .

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 27, 2013 at 10:36pm

When I was first diagnosed with diabetes several years ago I went to a registered nutritionist and she put me on a high protein, low carb diet, to which I was very faithful. I became very sick and my M.D. put me on another regimen of no white bread, rice, sugars. I love whole grains and used Dave's Killer bread, chuck full of seeds. I couldn't tolerate seeds when I started chemo. I should be able to handle them now. I am back on the the diabetic routine but with very small portions. My stomach shrunk down those two weeks I could not keep any food inside me. 

I feel great, just weary. That is fine. In fact, I went to The Grand Yarn store today and took a lesson in knitting; I am now knitting me a hat to keep my bald head warm. We have bitterly cold winds today. BRRRRRR!

Thanks for the lead to the book, "Good Calories, Bad Calories" by Gary Taubes sk8eycat. I'll look into it. 

For those interested in cancer, my neighbor recommended, 

"The Emperor of all Maladies: A biography of Cancer", by 

Siddhartha Mukherjee.

I've read only the first chapter and find it interesting. 

Comment by sk8eycat on September 27, 2013 at 9:57pm

Ruth, I am diabetic...or I was.  I don't know what I am now, my last A1c was 5.2 (it had been 5.7 or lower for more than two years), and I was having so many hypoglycemic attacks (starting in July) that I stopped taking the Glucotrol XL that I'd been on for 13 years, and my glucose readings at home are still almost always 115mg dl, or lower.

The only thing I have done, that I can think of, was that I read (and re-read many times) Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes 2+ years ago, and put things like bacon and other meats that the Fat Police hate back in my diet, and switched to whole grains whenever I could.  (I stopped using white sugar the day I was diagnosed, and switched to Splenda for cooking and to sweeten my tea.) Oh, and I eat a lot of lettuce and broccoli.  That's all.  I have always used butter because IMO margarines are made out of plastic and axle grease, and you can't cook with them. I have lost 30 lbs so far, without feeling deprived, overly hungry, or craving sweets...and I love desserts as much as any Adult Child.

We have been lied to about "healthy foods" for over 100 years...by sloppy researchers who were and are largely funded by the giant food-processing companies such as Kraft, Con-Agra, and the cereal manufacturers. (The only cereal I eat is oatmeal... on cold mornings.)

Fatty foods are NOT the Bad Guys, simple carbohydrates are.  White flour, white sugar, white rice, etc.  They do strange things to the body's demand for insulin, and unbalance everything.  (It's the 3 layers of white bread on a Big Mac that kicks the carbs up.)

Before I got the "whiteness" out of my diet, I was still keeping my blood sugar between 85 and 140, and I DID eat potatoes (both Idaho AND "yams") maybe once or twice a month...I only make rice when I'm going to have stir-fry, and I've been using only brown rice for the past few years.

I'm not trying to lecture you, but I do seriously recommend that book.  Our doctors tell us what the NIH and CDC tells them, and those organizations are behind the times, especially on the matter of fat in our diets.  I know it's counter-intuitive, but bacon, sausage, hamburger, bone-in skin-on chicken, and butter don't go directly from the stomach to the arteries.

I will admit that British sausages...Bangers...have a lot of bread crumbs in the mix, but I only go to Buchanan's every other year or so. I can't handle more ecstasy than that. [slides under the table just thinking about it]

Read the book...EVERYBODY!

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 27, 2013 at 5:43pm

Has anyone heard from Sentient? The last comment I read, he was not having such a good day. 

Comment by Plinius on September 27, 2013 at 3:34pm

Yes Tony, that's what what I thought too. I was born in a closed reli community, and I still remember the shock and the wonder of discovering different people - so I wish the young man the same.

 

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