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Is Christianity Persecuted? (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Patricia Aug 10. 7 Replies

Okay, gang ... when is the last time you saw Seth Andrews do an animated video on his YouTube channel?  Seems like donkey's years ago, don't it?  Well, apparently Jeff Sessions and his "religious liberty task force" got Seth's nelly up enough that…Continue

Tags: religious liberty task force, Donald Trump, Jeff Sessions, Seth Andrews, The Thinking Atheist

worshipping narcissists (qualiasoup & theramintrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Aug 4. 2 Replies

They're all around us: people who perceive the world as revolving around them and will go to considerable lengths to make it so: narcissists.  Such beings have been with humanity, I suspect, since humanity emerged from the gene pool.  Even worse,…Continue

Tags: narcissist, QualiaSoup, TheraminTrees

11 "unanswerable" questions for atheists - answered (Aron Ra)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Jun 6. 1 Reply

If you spend any time around YouTube and have any history of looking at atheist material (or even theist material!), you will inevitably run into: "XX Questions Atheists Can't Answer."  These are occasionally followed by: "XX Questions Atheists…Continue

Tags: apologist, answer, questions, unanswerable, Aron Ra

Secular and Reclaimed Winter Holiday Songs

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat May 2. 42 Replies

This is an appropriate day of the year for this subject...What are some of your favorite winter holiday songs?It would be especially good to share powerful new secular lyrics to tunes that have become associated with Christmas.…Continue

Tags: singing, lyrics, reclaimed, reclaiming, HumanLight

appropriating morality (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo May 1. 7 Replies

We've all heard the claim: "Human morality comes from god."  And we've all seen for ourselves what Yahweh's "morality" looks like, from condemnations of homosexuality and the treatment of women as chattel to inexplicable sanctions against the eating…Continue

Tags: morality, appropriating, TheraminTrees

Bible Belt Atheist (New York Times)

Started by Loren Miller Apr 19. 0 Replies

The following showed up in my YouTube feed this morning, and I decided to have a look.  Turns out, the New York Times has given us a reasonably even-handed look at a good friend of ours, being one Jerry DeWitt, former bible-thumper and now a pretty…Continue

Tags: Bible Belt, atheist, Jerry DeWitt

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Comment by Joan Denoo on May 16, 2014 at 5:18am

Robert Sapolsky discusses "Dutch Hunger Winter" in this video. Start at about 50:00 and he explain the behavioral genetics of stress on pregnant mothers and how the genetic linkages change and last for several generations. 

Comment by Plinius on May 16, 2014 at 1:17am

I didn't know, Joan, thanks for the link. What I noticed about people who lived through the 30s crisis and WWII is a strong tendency to hoard; food, medicine, money, anything that might be useful. Doompreppers. When my mother died she left behind hundreds of margerine packages, empty and neatly cleaned and stacked. Still don't know what she wanted with those.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 15, 2014 at 11:30pm

Chris, I am sure you know about Traces of Dutch 'Hunger Winter' in genetic material, however, many of us may not know of the facts of that terrible event and the consequences. 

"Conditions in the uterus can give rise to life-long changes in genetic material. People in their sixties who were conceived during the Hunger Winter of 1944-45 in the Netherlands have been found to have a different molecular setting for a gene which influences growth. Researchers from the LUMC are the first to demonstrate this effect. They published their findings this week in PNAS Online Early Edition, together with colleagues from Columbia University."

It is not a new finding, as indicated in this article. People who have studied the effects of hunger on populations have known about this for as long as I have been in the field. What is new is the realization that people, today, are impacted by the effects of that winter 1944-5 in Holland because of genetic changes that occurred during that famine. A new set-point was created in the genetic pool during that pregnancy that continues into today's descendants of that generation

II remember very well that year when British and USA planes dropped food onto Holland because the Germans had taken the food supplies to feed the starving of Germany. My family sent packages to family members in Belgium during that period which included warm clothing, homemade quilts out of old coats, and foods of various kinds. We were on rationing, so sugars and oils were very scarce. 

Comment by kathy: ky on May 15, 2014 at 4:09pm
And, no, fa, she didn't agree. If she had there would be no problem now.
Comment by kathy: ky on May 15, 2014 at 4:07pm
Thanks folks. FA, my daughter was close to my mom but I don't believe any of the other 13 could have came to an an agreement had they been asked. The g kids are all adults. I don't feel they had any say so in it.
sk8ycat, I'm with you on abortion rights.
Patricia, in Ky next of kin can override last wishes, even those made at the funeral home by prior directive. I have a deceased friend whose family did just that.
I think my daughter being an only child is the reason she thinks she should be included in any decisions.
Comment by sk8eycat on May 15, 2014 at 1:50pm
Comment by sk8eycat on May 15, 2014 at 12:52pm

I joined the Neptune Society 20 years ago, and am completely paid up...that includes dumping my ashes at sea.  BUT I told my sister I didn't care if she flushed them down the loo if she wanted to.

Ghod, I'm SO glad I never had kids!  Abortion IS a blessing, even when it was illegal (as mine were).

Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 15, 2014 at 12:35pm

K.H., I don't think it was unreasonable at all having just the five siblings make the burial decision for your mother.  Just the fact that there were disagreements among the five of you is quite enough without bringing in 14 additional opinions!  I'm curious of the reason why your daughter is so upset over this.  Did she not agree with the final decision?  Is that why she is stating she should have been consulted as well?  Is she the lone voice in this or is she speaking on behalf of the 14 grandchildren?  In any case, I don't think you or your siblings have done anything egregious.  It's fairly standard to have the closest "next of kin" make those decisions unless otherwise stated elsewhere.  This is a perfect example of why everyone should have their final wishes spelled out in a will. 

Comment by kathy: ky on May 15, 2014 at 10:12am
I am in need of an outside perspective. When my mom died last year my five siblings and l disagreed on where to bury her. We went by majority vote and we're all fine with that. However.. My daughter, one of 14 grandchildren, has been a bitch about it. She thinks all the g kids should have been included in the decision. I don't think they had any say so in the matter. My daughter and I have had a couple of disagreements about it over the last year with the last one getting rather nasty. I told her when I died she could do whatever the hell she wanted but that was my mother. Am I wrong or is she being unrealistic?
Comment by kathy: ky on May 15, 2014 at 9:44am
Booklover, have fun and I hope it's not raining and cold like it is here.
 

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