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11 "unanswerable" questions for atheists - answered (Aron Ra)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Jun 6. 1 Reply

If you spend any time around YouTube and have any history of looking at atheist material (or even theist material!), you will inevitably run into: "XX Questions Atheists Can't Answer."  These are occasionally followed by: "XX Questions Atheists…Continue

Tags: apologist, answer, questions, unanswerable, Aron Ra

worshipping narcissists (qualiasoup & theramintrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Jun 3. 1 Reply

They're all around us: people who perceive the world as revolving around them and will go to considerable lengths to make it so: narcissists.  Such beings have been with humanity, I suspect, since humanity emerged from the gene pool.  Even worse,…Continue

Tags: narcissist, QualiaSoup, TheraminTrees

Secular and Reclaimed Winter Holiday Songs

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat May 2. 42 Replies

This is an appropriate day of the year for this subject...What are some of your favorite winter holiday songs?It would be especially good to share powerful new secular lyrics to tunes that have become associated with Christmas.…Continue

Tags: singing, lyrics, reclaimed, reclaiming, HumanLight

appropriating morality (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo May 1. 7 Replies

We've all heard the claim: "Human morality comes from god."  And we've all seen for ourselves what Yahweh's "morality" looks like, from condemnations of homosexuality and the treatment of women as chattel to inexplicable sanctions against the eating…Continue

Tags: morality, appropriating, TheraminTrees

Bible Belt Atheist (New York Times)

Started by Loren Miller Apr 19. 0 Replies

The following showed up in my YouTube feed this morning, and I decided to have a look.  Turns out, the New York Times has given us a reasonably even-handed look at a good friend of ours, being one Jerry DeWitt, former bible-thumper and now a pretty…Continue

Tags: Bible Belt, atheist, Jerry DeWitt

How would you respond?

Started by Christina Scribner. Last reply by Christina Scribner Apr 10. 5 Replies

So, this morning, I was at my local coffee shop as I am most weekdays between bus runs. I do the editing on my husband's books so I had my laptop with me. My wallpaper is a picture I found online sometime back of a double helix with the word atheist…Continue

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Comment by Chris on November 12, 2017 at 6:42pm

Regarding the previous post about streeet food. I didn't get ill, or have digestive problems in China.   What I saw and think still occours for one is a lot of  copycat goods - for lack of a better term.   I was warned don't purchase film, or (regarding Suiseki)  rock formations. It wouldn't occure to me to purchase ancient "artifacts".

I heard that fake ancient artifacts are sold all over the world.

Comment by Chris on November 12, 2017 at 6:27pm

Recycled oil in China.

Comment by Loren Miller on November 12, 2017 at 10:53am

Idaho, one not-quite-apocryphal story to which I wish I could say I was witness: some years back at Blossom Music Center, the power went out during a Cleveland Orchestra performance, leaving the stage entirely dark.  They kept playing.

'Nuff said.

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 12, 2017 at 10:50am

I've saved those interesting pictures from China.  I assume the two young peeps are Tibetans.  How do you tell the difference?

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 12, 2017 at 10:43am

Loren, I've always wondered if a conductor was really necessary for an orchestra that had lots of practice under their belt.

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 12, 2017 at 10:39am

Very interesting, Randy.   I like the pictures.  We could use some sidewalk sweepers in my trashy town.

I don't know if I could get very far when the traffic was high.  I would be rather stressed, worring about getting run over.

Sounds like they love their hand-held devices more than the peeps here.  Me, I don't even carry my phone anymore.  Leave it in the car when shopping, leave it downstairs, when going upstairs.

It's surprising to me that there are no Caucasians and the natives don't make eye contact.

Comment by Loren Miller on November 12, 2017 at 8:56am

Randall, your trip sounds like it was pretty amazing (DUH!).  I shouldn't be surprised that trying to convey your experiences would be an exercise in frustration to a degree.  Still, thanks for what you have offered us.

On another topic, The Cleveland Orchestra has been a wonder to me since I was about nine years old, but yesterday it was especially amazing, in that they performed Vivaldi, Haydn, and Mendelssohn without benefit of conductor.  Concertmaster Bill Preucil would start each movement and occasionally provide guidance, but mostly focused on his own violin as the ensemble did what they do best: play together in near-flawless fashion with a clarity of tone which leaves my jaw on the floor.

Just. Plain. Amazing.

Comment by Ian Mason on November 12, 2017 at 8:52am

With Disney T-shirts too! Thanks for sharing, Randall.

Comment by Randall Smith on November 12, 2017 at 8:34am

I've thought it over and will comment on observations and impressions of China and its peoples! No pressure.  And I like your comment, Ian: I'm certainly no Twain or Bryson!

Permit me to start with the people. First of all, there are a lot of Chinese!! Only early in the morning, when I took pre-breakfast walks, were the streets and sidewalks not filled with humans. The only people out and about were sidewalk sweepers (they're everywhere, keeping walkways spotless), and cab drivers.

During the day, it's a madhouse--cars, buses, bicycles, motorbikes, walkers. They do follow rules--barely. You have to be careful not to get run over. At touristy areas, it's even worse! Chinese all have hand held devices, texting, taking photos, etc. They're all in a hurry, not exactly rude, but a little pushy. Outside of the major tourist attractions, I did not come across one single Caucasian as I walked the streets alone. The natives might glance at me, but seldom make eye contact. That surprised me being I stood out, race wise. The only exceptions were Tibetians. They were curious. Here's a couple of photos.

Comment by Ian Mason on November 12, 2017 at 5:32am

In Danish cities cyclists rule. Everyone else jumps.

It's hard to write about a trip, unless you're Mark Twain or Bill Bryson. A couple of pictures and/or comments would be nice but at Randall's discretion.

 

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