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Well, considering all the RFRA bills popping up all over the United States, plus all the fun and games ISIS is bringing to the good folks in Syria and Iraq, Betty Bowers, the epitome of well-dressed christianity, has decided to clarify the true…Continue

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Surreal, I haz it

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Let's not define ourselves or others by our worst behaviors

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My take on the recent melt down at Hang With Friends, of which I missed part, is that some of us were tripped up by a habit of thought. It's something we learn growing up, and use without realizing how much pain it can generate -  failing to…Continue

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Ode to Yahweh (Non Stamp Collector & 43alley)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 24. 1 Reply

Ages ago (five or six years, I guess it is) when I first started recognizing my own atheism, one of the first atheist YouTubers I ran onto was Non Stamp Collector.  His handiwork wasn't up to Disney's standards, nor even Hanna-Barbera, but his wit…Continue

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Oregon Field Guide - Lamprey Decline

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Comment by sk8eycat on July 21, 2012 at 1:41pm
 
Just in case you are feeling sorry for yourself on these 90+ degree days...With humidity!
click on the snowman: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=xkk7DX0l95A&Lid=12


Comment by sk8eycat on July 21, 2012 at 1:38pm

To add to Tony's information...in the times he's talking about, marriage among the upper classes was a formal contract between the husband, wife (and their families since titles/property/inheritance was always involved), and the church...which in those times was also the state.  Today, it's still at least a 3-way contract...husband, wife, and state.  Why else have a marriage license even for a secular wedding?

What puzzles me is why is any exchange of vows necessary once the license is obtained?  If it's meaningful for the couple, fine, but if you get a driver's license, you can wallk out of the building, get behind the wheel, and drive.  Same thing for a fishing license.  So why isn't a couple officially married as soon as they get the license?

Oh..."once upon a time" common people sometimes married each other by holding hands and jumping over a sword or a broomstick while reciting some lines....  And then they had a par-TAY!

Comment by Steph S. on July 21, 2012 at 1:29pm

You are so right Tony - exclusion hurts all of us.  We should strive for inclusion. Hope you are having a good weekend.

Tootsie Roll pop commercial reference. Cool!

Comment by Tony Carroll on July 21, 2012 at 12:31pm

Yes, as in the people who owned the land. They married each other, and occasionally the royalty. Most, and I do mean most, were arranged, not for love. The people together for love were actually the poor people, who were living together. Romantic love has always been around, of course, but has only been prominent in the last 250 yrs. or so.

If interested, start digging around on the internet, like I did. The idea that we have of marriage seems to change throughout the years. People just seem to use what works, they are more practical than what their religious leaders and political leaders, and the pundits today say is marriage, equality, etc. The vast majority seem to just keep on doing what is necessary. Full speed ahead, and damn the torpedos! I believe that is why marriage will redifine in our country, not without a struggle, mind you, but I think we will get there. Inclusion benefits us all, exclusion hurts us.

Comment by Steph S. on July 21, 2012 at 12:21pm

Hey thanks Tony for the history of marriage and how it has changed.

By "landed" you mean land owners - correct?

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 21, 2012 at 11:59am

@Tony C, glad to hear to laughed out load.  I get embarrassed easily, but would have enjoyed laughing with you guys despite the embarrassment.

And, thanks for the post about the history of marriage.  I appreciate learning that.

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 21, 2012 at 11:46am

"Witch chewer ear."  Haha.  Got it! and it only took me a few seconds. Usually takes a few minutes, or a few hours, or a few days.

Comment by Tony Carroll on July 21, 2012 at 11:43am

re: Marriage/Gay Marriage/Civil Partner, etc.

These DOMA and NOM fools have never read their history. Up until the 15th century, marriage was almost exclusively performed for the 'landed', and the others, the vast majority, just lived toghther. This was in 'christian' Europe,of course. Other cultures around the world did it different. Their names were recorded in the parish rolls, but living together was the norm.

In the early church, before the schism that drove eastern orthodox apart from the roman church, there was a little rite where two people, of any sex, could enter into a partnership. This was suppose to be similar to a business partnership, blessed by the church, but you know those crazy people.

Also in France, legal, civil partnerships, codified by the state existed uo until the late middle ages.

It is we who have already redifined marriage from our (as in the west) earlier history.

As I've said before, ain't history a bitch!

Comment by sk8eycat on July 21, 2012 at 11:28am

@Flying Guy: I also get embarrassed when dining with someone who insists on praying over their food...even when we're not out in public. I don't do the "submissive slave position" (head down, hands "shackled,")...sometimes, if I think they're showing off, I just go ahead and eat.  Who likes cold soup?  Unless it's gazpacho.

When I was about 6 years old my uncle indulged in a long prayer over a Thanksgiving dinner, and when he finally said "Amen," I piped up with "What about Aunt Janet?" (His wife, who had done all the difficult work...the enormous turkey, mashed potatoes, etc.)  My parents were mortified, but I really didn't understand why he was thanking somebody who wasn't even there...as far as I could tell.

We did go to church when I was a kid, but we weren't fanatic about it; never said prayers at mealtime or bedtime, never had a "funeral," when one of our pets died...none of that stuff.  When I was about 11 I declared a halt to Sunday school because I was going to ballet class every day after school, and all day Saturday.  I just wanted a day off.  And...the original minister at our church, who had been a good friend of Dad's outside of church, got his dream job at a church and community center on Catalina Island (Yesss!), and I didn't like the new Rev.  A humorless Calvinistic type.  Dad stopped going to church then, too.

To everyone, re PUNS: Our whole family has played with words... puns, intentional misspellings, crossword puzzles, Scrabble. I used to get some hilarious postcards from my mother when I was on the road (she wrote wonderful letters, too)...the best one was a photo of Marineland on which she wrote "Witch chewer ear."  Took me a few minutes to get it, then I LOLed so much that everyone in the dressing room had to see what was so funny.  This from a woman who dropped out of school after 8th grade (in 1919) to help support her 7 brothers and sisters...

All things considered, I think I was luckier than most kids.

Comment by Tony Carroll on July 21, 2012 at 11:27am

@ Idaho Spud.

No, I wasn't uncomfortable. It was kinda spontaneous from the people around us. To us, it was just funny.I got a weird sense of humor, though. Now, if they had actually said something to me about not showing respect, not bowing my head, or anything, then I would have said a few choice things. But as it was, was funnier than hell. and we did laugh out loud.

 

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