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Optical Illusions

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jan 31. 66 Replies

This one seems a bit creepy, like the middle one shouldn't be able to change rotation like that. from Cheezburger.comContinue

White House Petition: Change National Motto Back to "E Pluribus, Unum"

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by k.h. ky Jan 22. 8 Replies

There is a petition being sponsored by whitehouse.gov to remove "in god we trust" as the national motto and replace it with the original: "E Pluribus, Unum" or "Out of Many, One."  As of this writing, there are around 11,000 signatures on it, with…Continue

Tags: E Pluribus, Unum, in god we trust, petition

There Is Only One Way to Destroy ISIS

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller Dec 24, 2015. 3 Replies

There Is Only One Way to Destroy ISISGrowth in population, policies and practices that create a gap between the typical person and the wealthy,…Continue

coming out (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Atheist in FundyLand Dec 23, 2015. 6 Replies

Whether as atheist, agnostic, gay / Lesbian or whatever, the process of coming out has been a repeated topic of discussion here on Atheist Nexus and for good reason: it is at once a necessary yet potentially supremely painful process, depending on…Continue

Tags: Lesbian, agnostic, gay, atheist, TheraminTrees

If God Exists (DarkMatter2525)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Dec 23, 2015. 4 Replies

"Practice makes perfect."  That's the concept, isn't it?  Work diligently at something, especially something you enjoy and are adept at, and your skills sharpen, your judgment improves, and the product of your efforts demonstrate that improvement. …Continue

Tags: religion, YouTube, god, DarkMatter2525

Mental health in the age of violence: Dr. Elliott Ingersol

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randall Smith Dec 1, 2015. 1 Reply

I literally just discovered Dr. Elliott Ingersol yesterday, as a part of a discussion I had with other members of the Northern Ohio Freethought Society.  Dr. Ingersol is a licensed psychologist and clinical counselor in Ohio, as well as a professor…Continue

Tags: talk, psychotropic, therapy, psychology, Elliott Ingersol

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Comment by Grinning Cat on June 10, 2015 at 11:28am

Ruth, thanks for that quick recap of recent evidence!

And Joan, I'll definitely check out The Better Angels of our Nature.

Comment by Randall Smith on June 10, 2015 at 7:27am

Great charts, Ruth! I'm not saying I agree with Archibald, although he proposes a convincing argument. It's like those creationists. Their explanations often sound plausible, especially to the gullible. But we know they are filled with falsehoods. Same with climate stats.

Archibald's conclusions are based on solar variations and volcanic ash--cyclical occurances.  I never want to be close-minded about science or even religion, for that matter.

Comment by Gerald Payne on June 9, 2015 at 2:13am

Ruth, Joan, that global warming is happening is there to see. The problem I have is the emotive conviction that it's man-made. If carbon gas emission is the only explanation allowed for the warming, then the medieval warming~1200-1400, has to be explained using the same criteria.

During the medieval, grapes were grown all over southern England and the Vikings were farming on Greenland, so this isn't some insignificant detail.

History is a chronology of the patently obvious being proven to be the wrong option. People see the atmospheric rise in emissions corresponding with rising temperatures and it all appears so clear cut. The truth of the matter is that there are other theories that display the same correspondence, Svenmarks  cosmic ray theory can explain the medieval warming and the 'little ice age' that followed.

It seems to me to be an ideological worldview rather than empirical evidence that support's the man-made model. 'We must  save the world' and 'pin your banner to the mast' are noble ambitions, but lets have a disinterested look at the theories put forward and use judicious reasoning, not emotive passion, when coming to a decision.

As people are all to fond of saying the future of the human race may depend on it.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 9, 2015 at 12:27am

Randy, I don't know if we will be getting colder or warmer. All I can do is read what scientists report and try to evaluate them with an untrained eye. So far, I read and believe global warming. I do know that climate change is real. I might have to eat my words. However, climate change deniers are more likely to have to eat theirs. 

I am watching 

Twilight of Abundance: Why Life in the 21st Century will be Nasty, Brutish, and Short

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BK921Gy67A&ab_channel=TheInsti...

I'll chat with you tomorrow about what he says.

 

I do know that I am taking part in a grand experiment, moving to the country, living in the woods, growing all kinds of fruits and vegetqbles on ground that is probably sand left by the last Ice Age glaciers. 

You will probably live longer than I and will have a longer time to see what happens. In the meantime, I am having fun. I started out in college in 1955, majoring in horticulture, the only woman in the department. Here I am, 79 years old and doing horticulture in a way that didn't exist when I was in college. Oh, if my professors could see horticulture literature now, they would be blown away. 

I offer a hattip to Ruth for all the good research she presents to us. She picks articles and diagrms that help explain what is happening. I am really grateful to you, Ruth, for your fine reporting. 

I am on a new fork in the road. I am looking into peace. We have had a war college for ever. A peace college was begun in the 1960s, I think it was, and I want to see what has been found. It started for me when I read: 

Pinker, S. (2011). The Better Angels of our Nature. presented at the New York, New York: Viking.

Pinker, S. (2011). The Better Angels of our Nature. presented at the New York, New York: Viking.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 9, 2015 at 12:05am

Loren, that looks like one film I want to see!  Some interesting people involved. 

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on June 8, 2015 at 9:27pm

Randall, David Archibald's book isn't based on fact, or it misrepresents the fact. Here's a NASA chart. The Northern Hemisphere responds more quickly to Climate Change because it has more land. Do you see it getting cooler?

Global temperature records have recently been updated to correct for discrepancies in data collection methods.

But even before these corrections, the apparent slowdown in rate of warming, the faux pause, was only for land temperature. More than 90% of the heating goes into the oceans, and their heating acceleration never slowed down.

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Look at the ten hottest years.

So far 2015 has been even hotter. This is Jan to April for this year compared to previous Jan to April periods.

Models predict "a steadily intensifying El Niño that gets quite strong by the fall." "If anything like these forecasts come true, then 2015 will be the blow-out hottest year on record."

2015 Is Crushing It For Hottest Year On Record

Comment by Loren Miller on June 8, 2015 at 8:02pm

Just stumbled onto a new effort by Ridley Scott, coming this Thanksgiving.  Frankly, I think it looks pretty intriguing:

Comment by Ian Mason on June 7, 2015 at 2:32pm

Very sharp and to the point, Carl.

Glad to hear that your husband is on the mend, Ruth.

I try to be a 'minimalist' in my everyday life. It seems obvious that most resources are limited and that humanity is having an impact on the world. My one weakness in the past few years has been travel but I think that, as I don't run a car, a few flights a year are allowed.

Comment by Plinius on June 7, 2015 at 1:16pm

We'll find out what it is if we live long enough. In the meantime I try to keep my ecological footprint as small as possible.

Comment by sk8eycat on June 7, 2015 at 11:17am

I just think it's ironic that in the early 1980s everyone was in an uproar about "Nuclear Winter."  Which IS it, folks?  (Although the fall-out from thermonuclear war would make earth uninhabitable for every living thing....except cockroaches.  They'll outlive us all.)

 

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