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Bible Belt Atheist (New York Times)

Started by Loren Miller on Thursday. 0 Replies

The following showed up in my YouTube feed this morning, and I decided to have a look.  Turns out, the New York Times has given us a reasonably even-handed look at a good friend of ours, being one Jerry DeWitt, former bible-thumper and now a pretty…Continue

Tags: Bible Belt, atheist, Jerry DeWitt

How would you respond?

Started by Christina Scribner. Last reply by Christina Scribner Apr 10. 5 Replies

So, this morning, I was at my local coffee shop as I am most weekdays between bus runs. I do the editing on my husband's books so I had my laptop with me. My wallpaper is a picture I found online sometime back of a double helix with the word atheist…Continue

The Fake Christian Busybody Show (Andrew Bradley)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Plinius Apr 9. 1 Reply

It seems as though there was a Gay Pride parade in some town somewhere and a Christian commentator, herein known as The Activist Mommy, apparently got her panties so in a bunch about it that she had to fire up her video camera and record a…Continue

Tags: gay, pride, The Activist Mommy, Andrew Bradley, America's Best Christian

America Held Hostage: Day 436 (MisterDeity)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Apr 9. 1 Reply

Now that Sinclair Broadcasting has stated their position regarding fake news and its threat to our democracy, Mister Deity's Brian Dalton has decided to throw his $0.02 worth in as well ... though I don't quite think his presentation was really what…Continue

Tags: fake news, Deity, Mister, Broadcasting, Sinclair

Guns: Both Sides Now (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Christina Scribner Apr 3. 3 Replies

Oh, NO!  The gun debate has gotten so heated that it has Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, TALKING TO HERSELF!  Apparently, one of her has had a stroke or a serious breakdown in cognitive skills, as she does little more than parrot the NRA's…Continue

Tags: NRA, guns, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

how dogma pollutes discourse (qualiasoup & theramintrees)

Started by Loren Miller Apr 3. 0 Replies

"The Lord is our God; the Lord is One." "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father, but by Me." "There is no god but Allah, and Mohamed is his prophet." Assertions, taught as fact, but without any form of corroborative…Continue

Tags: dogma, QualiaSoup, TheraminTrees

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Comment by Chris on October 11, 2017 at 5:00am

Perhaps one has to be a member of  the Napa County web site to access the information. Sorry the link I provided didn't work.  Here's a screen shot of the PDF. showing fires around the city of Napa California U.S.A.

Comment by Chris on October 11, 2017 at 4:37am

Thanks Patricia.

I've been looking for more detailed maps of the local area.  I have a PDF from the County government.  Why doesn't Ning allow posting of PDF?

I attempted to post a link to the PDF.

I think this one will work  2017 NAPA FIRE COMPLEX Status Map -

I pulled my home first air kit and placed it in the car.

One of the neighbors who wasn't in the evacuation zone went to an evacuation center (early) because he's a pulmonologist.

I read that some of the dealths in Puerto Rico were caused from a loss of power because they used powered oxygen generators. Without knowing much they should have had multiple bottles of oxygen as back ups.  My understanding is because of flooding and debris in the roadway  emergency vehicles weren't able to get through. 

Some emergency management is terrible. "W" Bush wanted to privatize FEMA. That's a reason the response to hurricane Katrina in  Lousiana was so terrible.  I doubt FEMA recovered from the "W''s" cuts.

I understand that bottled water is being supplied to Puerto Rico.  That's okay for the short term.  I don't know if contanerized water filtration systems are being supplied to Puerto Rico.  Such systems should be in place in Haiti, and should have been deployed to Flint Michigan.

Under normal transportation methods bottled water costs ~$1.00 per gallon. Tap water costs less than $0.01 per gallon.

I wrote my federal congressman asking about .

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In some areas north of here residents are told to boil their water because of the fire.

The Donald Trump reality show such as throwing paper towels in Puerto Rico isn't amusing.

Comment by Chris on October 11, 2017 at 2:57am

Where I used to work they had gell blankets for burn patients. I'm sure the fire department has these, though I don't know. 

A friend of mine stationed in Afghanistan and Iraq said a powered coagulant was available for massive bleeding, but the Captian wouldn't issue them because he wanted to save money. 

The same went for unarmored humvees.  Donald Rumsfeld said you go to war with the equipment you have (as though it wasn't a voluntary war).  Robert Gates with a lot of effort finally made Mine-Resistant Ambush Procted (MRAP) vehicles available.

Superglue was invented to glue people together during the Vietnam war. Pharmacutical superglue works well for emergencies.

Do people who live in fire prone areas keep fire blankets in their first aid emergency kit.  Fire blankets (not the gell kind) have saved a lot of forest firefighters lives.

Comment by Patricia on October 11, 2017 at 2:20am

Do you mean something like this?

Comment by Chris on October 11, 2017 at 2:05am is a resource for general fire information.  I looked at NOAA websites and others for detailed information about the local fire.  Does someone know of a internet resource that shows detailed information such as sattelite images about fires, hurricanes, floods, earthquakes and etcetera?

Thinking about emergency awareness. You car should always have more than a half a tank of gas. My dad ran out of gas when he was a teenager and called my grandfather. My grandfather told my dad that a car runs better when the gas tank is half full than half empty. He didn't assist my dad, which was probably a good lesson.

Thanks for the information Patricia. I just remembered that I have some cash on hand and should bring it if I need to evacuate. People have become used to using debit and credit cards. Cards don't work when the power, telephone, or internet is out. 

I didn't think of hand sanitizer. I have a first aid kit in my car. I should carry a fire extinguisher in my car. I've seen cars burned  along the road at other times.   I'll grab my houshold fire extinguishers and put them by the door and take them with me if I have to evacuate.

The fire is looping around the neighborhood. If Ning allowed PDF's I'd post a map of the local fire - not that anyone cares about such details.

Comment by Patricia on October 10, 2017 at 10:34pm

We got out before the rush.

We packed 2 changes of clothes, meds, toiletries, cat food, phones, laptop, tablet, power cords, ID's, medical cards, water, sandwiches, blanket, hand sanitizer, sunscreen, hats, masks, cat carriers at the ready, & our wills.

Comment by Chris on October 10, 2017 at 10:10pm

Regarding the fire,

Residents living on road up the hill were evacuated. Neighbors with respriatory problems left. I have a 'fly-a-way kit" ready  when it comes time for me to evacuate.  That includes medicine and some clothing. 

Depending on wind conditions I should be safe in the house to avoid the smoke.  I'm thinking about things I should load in the car such as my photo albums and computers. I'm keeping my cats inside. They are angry that I won't let them out.

Emergency management planning is interesting.  I'm thinking of putting important paperwork in a suitcase in case I need to evacuate.

I've looked at maps of the fire from  Calfire, NOAA, and other web sites. TV news is terrible.  This is one of the many reasons local radio stations and Ham radio operators are important.  A local neighbohood internet networking site is overloaded with information.  It's difficult to tell how far the fire is from my house. I think it's two to five miles away.  It's difficult to tell. I haven't heard sirens, seen helicopters, or airplanes (with fire retardant).  Last I heard the fire was  0% contained.  Resources are spread thin. The Governor, and President declaired state and national emergencies (respectively).  The National guard is assisting with the effort.  I don't want to get on the road as a lookie loo which may impede emergency responders, or evacuees.

What do others who had to evacuate fires, or for other emergencies think they should have had packed for a quick departure?

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 10, 2017 at 3:56pm
Tuesday, October 17th, 7pm Eastern
The Great Hall of The Cooper Union
7 East 7th Street, between Third and Fourth Avenues
New York City
Dr. Riane Eisler, President, The Center for Partnership Studies
Jamia Wilson, Executive Director and Publisher, Feminist Press at CUNY
Laura Flanders, Founder, The Laura Flanders Show / GRITtv 
Tony McAleer, Executive director of Life After Hate
Moderated by Friedrike Merck
Event Co-sponsored by Cooper Union Office of Continuing Education & Public Programs and the Center for Partnership Studies.
Comment by Patricia on October 10, 2017 at 12:34am

The latest news on California's fires this evening was not good. I hope Chris has decided to get out.

Comment by Plinius on October 10, 2017 at 12:19am

Thanks Patricia, I had missed that program!

Any news of Chris? 


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