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The Burial Waltz

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Hi everyone,It was almost a half-century ago, at age 15 or so, that I encountered one of the more important influences in my life: a crazy group of poets/musicians who called themselves The Fugs.They had a huge impact on me in that, though raised in…Continue

Some William Blake to Ponder

Started by Donatien Alphonse François. Last reply by Donatien Alphonse François Apr 25. 6 Replies

Hello all,I'm new here, and so hope this isn't old hat. But, I just had to point you toward a marvelous poem by William Blake in case you've never read it. Despite his sometimes heavily tinged biblical references in his other art and poetry, this…Continue

God's Not Dead - The Christian Persecution Complex (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Annie Willis Apr 20. 7 Replies

Doubtless most if not all of you have heard about that sorry piece of cinema known as God's Not Dead, and perhaps its sequel, cleverly entitled: God's Not Dead 2 (wow, how original!).  Personally, I have wasted neither time nor money on either,…Continue

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Confirmed: flagged by religious people for "bullying."

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller Apr 19. 4 Replies

According to Seth Andrews @SethAndrewsTTA  Apr 16"Confirmed. TTA was flagged by religious people for "bullying." Apparently, criticism and skepticism = persecution. #GodHatesFacts"Others reported as "Flagged" and taken off line: @The Thinking…Continue

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The Value of Atheist Nexus ... and of Keeping Contact

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 17. 13 Replies

I don't know about you, but the last 24+ hours were VERY uncomfortable for me.  Why?  Because something I value a LOT, being Atheist Nexus and the people I care about on A|N were temporarily unavailable to me.  No, we're not Facebook; I don't think…Continue

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Atheist Pig STRIKES AGAIN!!!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Qiana-Maieev Apr 5. 1 Reply

There's no getting around it, Atheist Pig is fast becoming my fave secular comic, and as evidence, I refer you to the following.  Jesus and Mo had better watch their respective asses, 'cuz they got a porker coming up on the outside, and I'm pretty…Continue

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Comment by sk8eycat on August 5, 2012 at 8:13pm

That HAS to be from The Onion, Landover Baptist Church, or some other satirical web site.  There is only ONE Calaveras County in the USA...it's in California's GOLD Country...NOT "god" country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calaveras_County,_California

Comment by sk8eycat on August 5, 2012 at 5:18pm

My sister and I have agreed to disagree about religion, and have rarely discussed it (except how silly the Book of Morons Mormon is. We've both tried to read it, and got bogged down about 1/4 of the way past the 1st page) for decades. 

I think sometimes she regrets her attachment to the JWs...I know she missed doing xmas decoratioons and things like that after our parents died.  She was talking the other day about how much she liked the scent of evergreens in the house, and she always enjoys having someone drive her around to see all the outdoor lights and frou-frou, even though JWs KNOW xmas and Oestre are pagan rituals. 

They also don't believe the "young Earth/universe" nonsense...so we agree on more issues than we would if she were a Baptist. Or if she had stayed in that fundie Missouri Synod Lutheran church that was attached to the private school she went to through 8th grade.  (The public school system couldn't deal with her tantrums and stuff in kindergarten and 1st grade.  The public elementary school is just one block from our house, and she would sneak out and come home.)

But I find it amusing that even though she knows the Book of Morons is fiction, she can't or won't take the same skeptical look at the buybull. 

Well, I'm pretty sure she's terrified of death and dying, for one thing.  That's partly why she would never visit either of our parents the many times they were hospitalized...not that she was afraid she would see them die, but that she might see something disturbing in another room while walking through the halls.

She has never been hospitalized for anything in her life.  (I'm a patchwork of surgical scars.  I think she thought I was crazy when I calmly called a cab to go have my spine re-built in '09.  I wore my "Imagine No Religion" T-shirt, too.  Catholic horse-pissed-all, yanno.)

There have been times when I've wanted to slap her, but what good would it do?  When she gets hissy, and she does, I just go in my room and leave her alone till she gets over herself. This is a big house with plenty of room for two people.  And two kittehs. 

(Thank you for having the brains to make out a Living Trust, Mom!)

And to Spud...I don't see any reason for assuming a person deserves respect just for believing in a bunch of primitive myths.  Just the opposite, in fact. If their behavior shows that they can overcome their beliefs, whatever they are, then I'll respect them.

Maybe.

(I wish I could get my atheist friends in Blackfoot to join this group, but they're involed with other ones.  *sigh*  I have classmates in Coeur d'Alene, too, but he's a retired Baptwit minister...pals around with Tim LaHaye.  Ick.  But I love them anyway. I was a bridesmaid at their wedding in 1958.)

Comment by Idaho Spud on August 5, 2012 at 12:27pm

Sk8eycat, that has to be tough, living with a JW.  I like your respect comment.

Comment by Plinius on August 5, 2012 at 1:17am

Thanks Sk8eycat, for the aspie description - yes, classical behaviour. My brother-in-law is another, diagnosed himself at 50 years old from the internet. No friends, no contacts except his brother and me. Is now doing a training for aspies because he wants to study astronomy - I won't ask when (he's only 56 now). But the combination aspie-religion strikes me as unusual; the aspies I've met are all very rational and dismiss all fairytales and other unprovable things. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 5, 2012 at 12:05am

dr kellie, thanks for the correction about sk8eycat's sister. I am quite embarrassed I read so carelessly. Do you have insights you can offer me  regarding my neighbor boy? I would like to be prepared for ... whatever. 
I love your way of dealing with door bell proselytizers. That must get them off subject really quickly. 
I had larger breasts than most girls but at 76 years old, they are not  very pleasant to look at. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 4, 2012 at 11:58pm

sk8eycat, Thanks for being willing to share your experience caring for an Aspie. Not knowing about the condition, and experiencing her "peculiarities", how old was she before there was a "diagnosis", even if she didn't go for medical care. What were the presenting symptoms? Is she good natured, or difficult, and what strategies do you use. 

A new little boy moved into our neighborhood this summer and he has Aspies. He seems to enjoy being with the other kids in my back yard but sometimes he gets rough with them verbally, never physically. My response is to sit with him until he settles down and then talk about what he is feeling. I really like the boy and need to know how to respond to him in positive and healthy ways. The other kids are great, and they seem to get along with him, even as he is blunt. 

Comment by sk8eycat on August 4, 2012 at 11:50pm

booklover, I just had another idea about the "business cards."  after the line, "...BUT I DO NOT HAVE TO RESPECT WHAT YOU BELIEVE.!"  I should add, "AND I DON'T!"   Maybe with  or   at the end of the line.  Or underneath the last line.

They didn't call me "La Bruja del Hielo" fer nuttin'!

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 4, 2012 at 11:46pm

sk8eycat, I misread your sentence on Aspie, and am sorry I read it so carelessly. However, I am interested in how it is for you. 
OH! You have already responded. I shall get back to you after I read your comment. 

Comment by sk8eycat on August 4, 2012 at 11:38pm

Joan...my sister has never been able to drive a car, work outside the home (except to peddle Watchtowers), control her temper, form any lasting relationships except with a small number of people in her congregation.  Has never been on a date with anyone of any sex.

As an infant and toddler, she didn't like being held, she'd push Mother away when given a hug.

She does love our cats, and the neighbors' dogs, has a memory like a steel trap.  Doesn't "nurse" a grudge, she cherishes them; she still talks about a first grade teacher who was "mean" to her.  I have told her and told her that I had the same teacher 5 years before she did, and she was "mean" (strict) with everybody.  Doesn't register; she loves feeling victimized.  For a long time her hobby was Musical Doctors...every time some new condition would be in the news, she thought she had it, got a checkup, and when her doctor told her she didn't have...chronic fatigue syndrome, or fibromyalgia, or whatever, she'd pitch a fir and go shopping for a new doctor.

And during all this time NObody in the USA had ever heard of Asperger's Syndrome, even though it was first described in 1944...the year she was born.  But Dr. Asperger was in Austria, and "there was a war on."

She's never been diagnosed because JWs don't go in for things like neuropsychiatry, but MY doctor an MY therapist have told me her behavior is "classic."

Too late to do anything about it now except accept that that is the way she is, and try to live with it.  I was pretty much on my own from 1957 till the mid-'80s when our parents started needing help, and I moved back in the house. 

When dad had a catastrophic stroke, and the EMTs were wheeling him out of the house for the last time, she went in her room and closed the door.  He lived another 3 months, but she never visited him in the hospital.  Didn't ever visit Mother all the times she was hospitalized, either.

But she knows a hell of a lot about astronomy....   [shrugs]

Comment by dr kellie on August 4, 2012 at 10:38pm

Joan, her sister is an Aspie.  My brother was, too.

 

My resonse to the door bell ringers is to go to the door topless.  They really run off.  I might have to stop when I get older and don't like going topless.  I think I have a few more years:)

 

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