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What Annoys God Most? (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat yesterday. 10 Replies

Long story short, it's those near misses, the almost-but-not-quite, close but no cheroot moments, or, would you believe ... Near Death Experiences!  So what's the big deal?  Betty Bowers, America's BEST Christian and self-proclaimed expert on such…Continue

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degrading love — part one (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Nov 22. 11 Replies

Love is by many considered among the highest of positive emotions.  Yet when love of the type offered by deities is examined, something seems to go seriously wrong.  The love of Yahweh seems less a gift than a demand, not so much beneficence as a…Continue

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Ning, Error 500s, and Whether to Migrate

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 13. 47 Replies

I just got the following notice from Ning yesterday, (31 October, 2016), in the wake of this latest website outage:As some of you may be aware, we experienced a system outage earlier this morning. The cause was due to a specific network…Continue

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Introducing Douglas Murray

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Nov 7. 4 Replies

Most of us who have been around atheism for a while know the heavyweights of our ilk.  Names like Hitchens, Dawkins, Dennett, Harris, Dillahunty and AronRa get nearly daily mention in posts and discussions on Atheist Nexus.  One name I was…Continue

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If There's a God - She's a Woman - The Author T

Started by Joe. Last reply by Chris Nov 3. 4 Replies

I came across this story and thought some here might find it interesting and humorous.It’s titled:If There’s a GodShe’s a WomanFrom the Series:Things You Can Learn from a VaginaIts on the website TheAuthorT.com under the tab, “Free to Read…Continue

His Dark Materials and the Catholic Church

Started by Tonya R. Wheeler. Last reply by k.h. ky Oct 30. 35 Replies

I recently watched the movie, "The Golden Compass" and since I could not find the sequels, I read the books. I enjoyed them, and I will be reading the first one, Northern Lights, starting tomorrow, since it just arrived via inter-library…Continue

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Comment by Ian Mason on April 23, 2016 at 9:04am

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 23, 2016 at 1:23am

Ian, with you and Daniel, how can I go wrong? I like your statement, "Nihil sine laboure: nothing comes without work."

I will get me a wood burning tool out of the tool shop and make me a sign over the chicken coop with these words. 

I really like those pretty little hens. They provide all the eggs five of my great-grandchildren need or want. I will have a talk with their parents, Michelle and Jared, and express my concern for both the chickens and children. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 23, 2016 at 1:15am

Daniel, as always, your calm, reasonable, intelligent words help to calm my frustration. I focus on #3, as I know I should do that in the first place. My poop really hit the fan when three times this last week I found the chickens without food and water and their nests filled with droppings and eggs laying out in the sun.  I started reading up on proper care of chickens. I bought a bale of straw to line their nests, got backup water and food dishes so I could keep them filled and clean, and bought a pooper scooper to help me clean the nests and ground. A plain old garden trowel just doesn't do the job. I laid claim to the dirty straw to go into my compost heap. 

I started reading up on proper care of chickens. I bought a bale of straw to line their nests, got backup water and food dishes so I could keep them filled and clean, and bought a pooper scooper to help me clean the nests and ground. A plain old garden trowel just doesn't do the job. I laid claim to the dirty straw to go into my compost heap. 

The birds have distinct personalities. One old hen doesn't allow me to enter the coop until she has taken a few pecks at my hand. Another puts up such a noise I don't know if she is mad, glad, sad, or afraid. A pretty little white hen acts like a queen, sitting on her nest in a quiet corner of the hen house. There are no roosters, so she has nothing to come from all her conscientious time and devoted effort. 

I was very hard on my three children. They had to complete their chores before they could be excused to play. I am sure Laura tried to teach her girls these values, she works incredibly hard and makes a good living doing it. 

I feel the girls need this discipline and so do their children. I am an old wicked witch of the West. Well, that is OK. The kids spend a lot of time talking with me and joining me as I tend to the chores. We get along fine, except for chores first then play. 

It will take some time, and I do feel royally pissed off. Thanks, Daniel, for offering a calming influence for me.  

Comment by Ian Mason on April 23, 2016 at 1:05am

Nihil sine laboure: nothing comes without work. Teach your young'uns that, Joan. Whatever there is, someone had to work for it. The myth of an Eden where Adam and Eve could just wander about naked plucking food from trees is just that, a myth. But I'm sure that time will prove a good teacher, even if your words go in one ear and out the other now.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on April 22, 2016 at 9:45pm

Joan, Saw your post and wanted to encourage you!

While I should be the last to give advice, here are some thoughts.

1.  The important thing is that YOU be happy.  Some will learn from your example, some will learn with time, and some will never learn.  But I know that you would not derive happiness from anyone else's expense, so again, the important thing is that you be happy.

2.  I thought the grandmother's job was to piss off her children by spoiling her grandchildren?  (snark)

3.  If they don't do their chores, then can there be a price?  "If you do (this), then your reward is (that).  If you don't, then the reward does not happen.  If someone else does it, then they get the reward.

Again, I should be the last person giving advice, so I will stop there.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 22, 2016 at 9:29pm

I am pissed off. Some of my younger generation seem to think they can play and not work or do chores before playing. This mean old great-grandma just lost her temper. They think all the good things we have just fell from positive thinking! Bull fecal matter!

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 22, 2016 at 9:26pm

Bertold! No! An atheist Barbie is no such thing! She is an interesting and interested young woman, learning from the past and imagining a preferred future for her generation. She has the guts, wisdom, ambition, and perseverance to create a healthy, prosperous, compassionate, empathic, reasonable world that values justice and peace. She is not a money-grabber, nor does she expect to be able to create her world alone. It takes a team to make a healthy family and community. 

Please, please, please do not pass on this image of an atheist woman! Let's create an image in which we can all take pride.

 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 22, 2016 at 9:20pm

Ian, your beautiful video of  Elina Garanca and Anna Netrebko duet singing Flower Duet from Delibes' opera Lakme just made my heart sing along with them. If I move my mouth to their words, I pretend I am a great singer. Sadly, even the dogs invite me to stay quiet when I sing my way through the morning.

We have a deluge of rain like I have not seen for a very long time. I wish I had rain barrels out under the rain gutters to sequester some of this precious water.  

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 22, 2016 at 6:06pm

Bertold, as usual, Valerie Tarico makes more sense and offers a healthier way of living and viewing the world than any religious denomination known to me. Even Buddhist principles have some dreadful traditions with which I do not want to participate. 

I also laughed at the Missippi's literacy piece. Spelling seems to be a needed discipline. 

Comment by Qiana-Maieev on April 22, 2016 at 5:30pm

Anyone want to get together to ''help'' that along?

 

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