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Men who challenge men to stop violence

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Jan 9. 19 Replies

Many men join in the effort to reduce violence against women and children and other men. He speaks of the need to place responsibility on men instead of focusing on women to stop violence. He offers a breath of fresh air, as do so many of the men on…Continue

Ian, a beautiful New Years blessing.

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Chris Jan 5. 7 Replies

Ian, for some reason, my comment would not "send" on Hang with Friends; perhaps it will here!Ian, a beautiful New Years blessing. It goes in my file. I especially like the thought of surprising myself. Laura made a special trip to my Spokane home to…Continue

degrading love — part two (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller Jan 1. 0 Replies

TheraminTrees set up religion with his left in Part One of his treatise on how religion demeans and degrades the value of love.  Here in Part Two, he brings in a devastating, "Mike Tyson" right, which negates and invalidates any claim that either…Continue

Tags: Christianity, Islam, TheraminTrees, god, love

The Ark Encounter: A Less than Grand Opening (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Dec 31, 2016. 27 Replies

The day finally arrived.  Ken Ham's Ark Encounter opened on 7 July, 2016 ... to something a bit less than Disney-sized crowds, and more than a couple dissenting voices!  Seth Andrews has gathered a quartet of significant participants in the protest…Continue

Tags: Tracey Moody, Dan Broadbent, Seth Andrews, David Silverman, AronRa

Learning a Language as a Mature Adult

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Idaho Spud Dec 14, 2016. 27 Replies

Trying to keep my mind exercised, and not interested in most of the reading materials that I can find.I decided to attempt to learn a language.  Actually, two.  The dilemma is, how do I do that without going to school - not an option - and without…Continue

What Annoys God Most? (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Dec 7, 2016. 10 Replies

Long story short, it's those near misses, the almost-but-not-quite, close but no cheroot moments, or, would you believe ... Near Death Experiences!  So what's the big deal?  Betty Bowers, America's BEST Christian and self-proclaimed expert on such…Continue

Tags: Near Death Experiences, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

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Comment by k.h. ky on July 18, 2016 at 2:26pm
You can't win in the USA. My b-i-l worked all his life. When he was laid off, at age 66, he found out he wasn't eligible for unemployment because he was drawing a small pension from a prior job. Even though he was taxed for unemployment insurance on every check he ever earned.
How screwed up is that??
Comment by Plinius on July 18, 2016 at 7:23am

You're right, Joan, there are so many aspects of a basic income for all - if we'd introduce it I guess the haves will have so many means to keep the not-haves poor that no one will be the better for it. To all your other points: YES!!

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 18, 2016 at 3:38am

Chris, I don't support a primary income because no one is owed a living; I do think everyone is owed a job with living wages. I also believe there should be a cap on wealth, although it would give migraine headaches to those who administer it. It is too easy to hide money, thus maintaining the broad gap between wealthy and poor. 

There should be universal: 

* income level for families with children and a disincentive to have more children, family planning services and abortions legal;

* education with required competencies to pass each level of education with a basic education of reading, writing and arithmetic; 

* health care for all members of the society; 

* retirement for each individual, not for a couple, that is, enough to keep each one living above the poverty level. 

With these basic needs of children and elderly, as well as education and health care secured for all individuals to their highest level of ability or interest, and with higher wages for wage-workers, there would be an incentive for people to work and there would be no need for the highly corruptible welfare system. 

My understanding is that Sweden and the Scandinavian countries have jobs with living wages for all citizens and are taxed to accomplish the cost with a progressive tax rate.

Ten Reasons to Support Basic Income

I can find reasons to not support a basic income. 

Comment by Ian Mason on July 18, 2016 at 1:32am

Chris, I really don't know about the 'citizen wage' idea. The same proposal has been aired in Denmark but vanished again.

Joan, I agree with what you say. A 'sub.proletariat' is now a reality and it's often looked down on in the media and by those in work.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 17, 2016 at 7:10pm

Ian, I hear your frustration and share it. With fewer paid jobs and more workers, it creates the ability to generate a poverty class. If the wealthy cared about the poor, they would either invest in the projects to employ workers or the government would make work projects, such as road and highway repair and construction, improve schools and hospitals to the point of everyone who is willing and able to work has a paying job. And if the wealthy and the government had any sense of responsibility, the wages would be enough to draw all workers into the middle Class.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on July 17, 2016 at 5:44pm

Thanks for all the birthday greetings!  Yes, yesterday was indeed my birthday.  It was just another normal day, but I did go out to dinner with my best friend last night to one of our favorite pizza places. We always have lots of laughs together.  Went home and was In bed by 11pm.

Comment by Loren Miller on July 17, 2016 at 10:09am

Speaking of UN-Birthdays:

Comment by Plinius on July 17, 2016 at 8:52am

An unbirthday celebration is also ok!

Comment by Randall Smith on July 17, 2016 at 6:53am

If indeed, it IS your birthday, Carl, thumbs up!!

Comment by Plinius on July 17, 2016 at 4:20am

Poor man. Any chance of a voluntary group who'll teach him?

And the other side of the problem is that the Danes in need of a job will feel someone has taken 'their' jobs.

I'm still thinking of the Swiss plan (rejected by referendum in the meantime) to give everyone a basic income. I think it would give many people the means to do necessary work they feel should be done, or they could up their income with a paid job. But I feel I can't figure all the consequences - what do you think?

 

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