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bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller 14 hours ago. 39 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller Sep 6. 0 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

We Don't Want Your (Atheist) Money! (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 2. 17 Replies

I suppose I've heard stories like this before:Conscientious atheist donates money to worthy cause.Worthy cause initially accepts money.Worthy cause discovers source of donation.Worthy cause rejects donation.Swell, eh?  Well Matt Willbourne of…Continue

Tags: American Baptist Churches Association, Murrow Indian Children's Home, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly Sep 2. 3 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Are You a Patriot? (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris G Aug 29. 22 Replies

You might think that Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, would be stepping outside of her comfort zone in tackling the concept of patriotism.  As it turns out, not only does she have a proper handle on the term and its implications, she also…Continue

Tags: patriot, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

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Comment by sk8eycat on July 21, 2012 at 4:33pm

Tony, I don't know where or how they learned about the custom, but slaves, who weren't allowed to marry officially, "jumped the broom" in the American south.  I remember reading about it, and seeing it performed in Alex Haley's Roots.  Both the book and the TV version.

If marraige were a simple agreement between the bride and the groom...why not?  It's classier than the un-funny fad of smearing cake on each other's faces at the reception.  (When did that start, anyway?  I never heard of such a thing in the 1950s and '60s when most of my friends were getting married.)

Comment by Tony Carroll on July 21, 2012 at 2:56pm

@sk8eycat. 'Jumping the broom' is still used colloquilary (sic) around here in this part of East Texas. Hear it in casual conversation all the time.

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 21, 2012 at 1:52pm

Always enjoy seeing people slide around --- as long as it isn't me.

That snowplow driver had to know he was going to cover the news reporter. lol

Comment by sk8eycat on July 21, 2012 at 1:49pm

PS: I just saw a news story about the Aurora, Colo shooting; the perp was described by a former neighbor as a "shy, quiet kid from a nice Presbyterian churchgoing family."

Roger Ebert wrote a good Op-Ed piece titled, "We've Seen This Movie Before"

 
The Usual Pundits will blame this on everything but easy access to military-type weapons in this madhouse we call a country.
Comment by sk8eycat on July 21, 2012 at 1:41pm
 
Just in case you are feeling sorry for yourself on these 90+ degree days...With humidity!
click on the snowman: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=xkk7DX0l95A&Lid=12


Comment by sk8eycat on July 21, 2012 at 1:38pm

To add to Tony's information...in the times he's talking about, marriage among the upper classes was a formal contract between the husband, wife (and their families since titles/property/inheritance was always involved), and the church...which in those times was also the state.  Today, it's still at least a 3-way contract...husband, wife, and state.  Why else have a marriage license even for a secular wedding?

What puzzles me is why is any exchange of vows necessary once the license is obtained?  If it's meaningful for the couple, fine, but if you get a driver's license, you can wallk out of the building, get behind the wheel, and drive.  Same thing for a fishing license.  So why isn't a couple officially married as soon as they get the license?

Oh..."once upon a time" common people sometimes married each other by holding hands and jumping over a sword or a broomstick while reciting some lines....  And then they had a par-TAY!

Comment by Steph S. on July 21, 2012 at 1:29pm

You are so right Tony - exclusion hurts all of us.  We should strive for inclusion. Hope you are having a good weekend.

Tootsie Roll pop commercial reference. Cool!

Comment by Tony Carroll on July 21, 2012 at 12:31pm

Yes, as in the people who owned the land. They married each other, and occasionally the royalty. Most, and I do mean most, were arranged, not for love. The people together for love were actually the poor people, who were living together. Romantic love has always been around, of course, but has only been prominent in the last 250 yrs. or so.

If interested, start digging around on the internet, like I did. The idea that we have of marriage seems to change throughout the years. People just seem to use what works, they are more practical than what their religious leaders and political leaders, and the pundits today say is marriage, equality, etc. The vast majority seem to just keep on doing what is necessary. Full speed ahead, and damn the torpedos! I believe that is why marriage will redifine in our country, not without a struggle, mind you, but I think we will get there. Inclusion benefits us all, exclusion hurts us.

Comment by Steph S. on July 21, 2012 at 12:21pm

Hey thanks Tony for the history of marriage and how it has changed.

By "landed" you mean land owners - correct?

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 21, 2012 at 11:59am

@Tony C, glad to hear to laughed out load.  I get embarrassed easily, but would have enjoyed laughing with you guys despite the embarrassment.

And, thanks for the post about the history of marriage.  I appreciate learning that.

 

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