Hang With Friends

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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly yesterday. 15 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo on Tuesday. 2 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

A moment to relax and see the Earth from space; some how this comforts me.

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Qiana-Maieev on Sunday. 3 Replies

All the squabbles and struggles that I have do not compare with those of some others on this great planet. There are no boundary lines, no political arguments, no up or no down. What is, is. For right now, the scenes offer tranquility. Just the…Continue

Tags: and, wonder, awe, of, space

His Dark Materials and the Catholic Church

Started by Tonya R. Wheeler. Last reply by Plinius on Sunday. 27 Replies

I recently watched the movie, "The Golden Compass" and since I could not find the sequels, I read the books. I enjoyed them, and I will be reading the first one, Northern Lights, starting tomorrow, since it just arrived via inter-library…Continue

Tags: Fantasy, Catholic, Religion, Atheist, Pullman

Issues Atheist, Feminist, GLBTQ, Climate Change

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Oct 6. 2 Replies

This is a test Continue

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Sep 29. 39 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

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Comment by Ian Mason on July 30, 2012 at 7:35am

Would have been nice if he could have got some revenge with straight-jackets, anti-psychotic medicines and ECT :-)

Comment by Tony Carroll on July 30, 2012 at 6:10am

Speaking in tongues. sk8eycat, everytime I hear that, brings to mind a story I have, a true one that will make you roflyao.

In 1978, I had been out of USAF about 8 mos., going to school, and working at the ambulance service in Washington County, Mississippi. We received a call for woman down. Unknown. Was at a Pentecostal church. My friend George and his partner Tommy made the call. Approximately 5 min. after arrival at scene, George came over the radio, calling for help. Needed police, was trapped, couldn't get out of the building. Needless to say, not only police, but all units not on a call plus a fire crew responded. I was on a transfer, so couldn't respond.

When I got back to the station, George was standing there, looking like a drowned cat. The Cops, Firefighters, and EMT's were all laughing at him. Seems when they got to the church, there was a lady lying on the floor, apparentely having a siezure. When my friend knelt next to her, someone said to him, 'Move away you devil', and poured 'holy water' on him. They gatherd around him in a circle, chanting son of satan, the devil, etc., and flinging water at him. He couldn't get out of the circle! He got soaked. The woman came around, refusing any care. She had been 'slain in the spirit', and had been possessed by the holy ghost. Needless to say, for the next few weeks, every so often we would squirt water at him and yell "Son Of Satan'. LOL. Good times. And his partner got away unscathed! I guess the lord does work in mysterious ways. :))) !

Comment by sk8eycat on July 29, 2012 at 11:43pm

@Joan, GOOD list.  I think I would add to it:

An omnipotent being that is unable to communicate with everyone on the planet in their native languages concerning his/her/its wishes.  Can only speak through self-appointed mouthpieces...mostly in obsolescent languages that only scholars understand. (But seems to get ssome jollies out of Pentecostals making fools of themselves by rolling on the floor, "speaking in tongues.").

D'ruther ROTFLMAO, myself.

Comment by sk8eycat on July 29, 2012 at 11:28am

Joan, Sorry I didn't answer right away.  I'm having major computer problems.  In order to afford getting a tech to clean my hard drive, I'm going to have to sell my car....which I haven't driven in months , anyway.

Yes.   That's the Gorey cat & books drawing.

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 29, 2012 at 6:38am

Kissing Hank's Ass is a great bit of satire (is that the right word?), and written so even I can understand it.

Comment by Plinius on July 29, 2012 at 12:27am

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Comment by Ian Mason on July 28, 2012 at 9:57pm

A good list, Joan. Solid common sense. And thanks for the link, GC. I'm off to read the whole thing now.

Comment by Grinning Cat on July 28, 2012 at 9:24pm

Joan, thanks for the list! While religions do vary quite a bit in the harmfulness of the beliefs, the encouragement of faith based on untestable, unverifiable, strictly subjective claims is troublesome. So is the reliance on circular reasoning.

Which reminds me of Jim Huber's excellent parable "Kissing Hank's Ass", which many people here have hopefully seen. The whole thing is two pages; here are some snippets. A well-dressed couple shows up at the door, inviting the narrator to kiss Hank's ass with them...

John: "If you kiss Hank's ass, He'll give you a million dollars; and if you don't, He'll kick the shit out of you."

Me:   "What? Is this some sort of bizarre mob shake-down?"

John: "Hank is a billionaire philanthropist. Hank built this town. Hank owns this town. He can do whatever He wants, and what He wants is to give you a million dollars, but He can't until you kiss His ass."


John: "Ha! You just admitted that scientists make mistakes, but we know Hank is always right!"

Me:   "We do?"

Mary: "Of course we do, Item 7 says so."

Me:   "You're saying Hank's always right because the list says so, the list is right because Hank dictated it, and we know that Hank dictated it because the list says so. That's circular logic, no different than saying 'Hank's right because He says He's right.'"

John: "Now you're getting it! It's so rewarding to see someone come around to Hank's way of thinking."

Comment by Steph S. on July 28, 2012 at 8:03pm
What a cute cat Lol you posted Tony!
I love it!
I'll have to copy that picture - and all the others ones posted here of course.
Thanks for your list Joan - I agree.
Comment by Joan Denoo on July 28, 2012 at 8:01pm

Things that prevent me from believing in a god, any god:  

1. The imperative to submit, obey, follow teachings with which I do not agree. 

2. Perception of some as more human than others. 

3. A hierarchical system that places a god at the top to be obeyed:   males, preference for a specific race (Jewish, Anglo-S or Muslim) and women and children perceived as chattel.

4. Claims about miracles that defy natural laws of physics and depend on faith and belief. 

5. Defenses to back up their claims using untestable, unmeasurable, unverifiable rationale. 

6. Justification by using circular thinking: god, yahweh, allah authored scripture; scripture describes god's, yahwey's, allah's imperitives. 


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