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What Annoys God Most? (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris on Thursday. 9 Replies

Long story short, it's those near misses, the almost-but-not-quite, close but no cheroot moments, or, would you believe ... Near Death Experiences!  So what's the big deal?  Betty Bowers, America's BEST Christian and self-proclaimed expert on such…Continue

Tags: Near Death Experiences, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

degrading love — part one (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Nov 22. 11 Replies

Love is by many considered among the highest of positive emotions.  Yet when love of the type offered by deities is examined, something seems to go seriously wrong.  The love of Yahweh seems less a gift than a demand, not so much beneficence as a…Continue

Tags: TheraminTrees, god, love

Ning, Error 500s, and Whether to Migrate

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Nov 13. 47 Replies

I just got the following notice from Ning yesterday, (31 October, 2016), in the wake of this latest website outage:As some of you may be aware, we experienced a system outage earlier this morning. The cause was due to a specific network…Continue

Tags: downtime, Atheist Nexus, Ning

Introducing Douglas Murray

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Nov 7. 4 Replies

Most of us who have been around atheism for a while know the heavyweights of our ilk.  Names like Hitchens, Dawkins, Dennett, Harris, Dillahunty and AronRa get nearly daily mention in posts and discussions on Atheist Nexus.  One name I was…Continue

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If There's a God - She's a Woman - The Author T

Started by Joe. Last reply by Chris Nov 3. 4 Replies

I came across this story and thought some here might find it interesting and humorous.It’s titled:If There’s a GodShe’s a WomanFrom the Series:Things You Can Learn from a VaginaIts on the website under the tab, “Free to Read…Continue

His Dark Materials and the Catholic Church

Started by Tonya R. Wheeler. Last reply by k.h. ky Oct 30. 35 Replies

I recently watched the movie, "The Golden Compass" and since I could not find the sequels, I read the books. I enjoyed them, and I will be reading the first one, Northern Lights, starting tomorrow, since it just arrived via inter-library…Continue

Tags: Fantasy, Catholic, Religion, Atheist, Pullman

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Comment by sk8eycat on August 4, 2012 at 11:50pm

booklover, I just had another idea about the "business cards."  after the line, "...BUT I DO NOT HAVE TO RESPECT WHAT YOU BELIEVE.!"  I should add, "AND I DON'T!"   Maybe with  or   at the end of the line.  Or underneath the last line.

They didn't call me "La Bruja del Hielo" fer nuttin'!

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 4, 2012 at 11:46pm

sk8eycat, I misread your sentence on Aspie, and am sorry I read it so carelessly. However, I am interested in how it is for you. 
OH! You have already responded. I shall get back to you after I read your comment. 

Comment by sk8eycat on August 4, 2012 at 11:38pm sister has never been able to drive a car, work outside the home (except to peddle Watchtowers), control her temper, form any lasting relationships except with a small number of people in her congregation.  Has never been on a date with anyone of any sex.

As an infant and toddler, she didn't like being held, she'd push Mother away when given a hug.

She does love our cats, and the neighbors' dogs, has a memory like a steel trap.  Doesn't "nurse" a grudge, she cherishes them; she still talks about a first grade teacher who was "mean" to her.  I have told her and told her that I had the same teacher 5 years before she did, and she was "mean" (strict) with everybody.  Doesn't register; she loves feeling victimized.  For a long time her hobby was Musical Doctors...every time some new condition would be in the news, she thought she had it, got a checkup, and when her doctor told her she didn't have...chronic fatigue syndrome, or fibromyalgia, or whatever, she'd pitch a fir and go shopping for a new doctor.

And during all this time NObody in the USA had ever heard of Asperger's Syndrome, even though it was first described in 1944...the year she was born.  But Dr. Asperger was in Austria, and "there was a war on."

She's never been diagnosed because JWs don't go in for things like neuropsychiatry, but MY doctor an MY therapist have told me her behavior is "classic."

Too late to do anything about it now except accept that that is the way she is, and try to live with it.  I was pretty much on my own from 1957 till the mid-'80s when our parents started needing help, and I moved back in the house. 

When dad had a catastrophic stroke, and the EMTs were wheeling him out of the house for the last time, she went in her room and closed the door.  He lived another 3 months, but she never visited him in the hospital.  Didn't ever visit Mother all the times she was hospitalized, either.

But she knows a hell of a lot about astronomy....   [shrugs]

Comment by dr kellie on August 4, 2012 at 10:38pm

Joan, her sister is an Aspie.  My brother was, too.


My resonse to the door bell ringers is to go to the door topless.  They really run off.  I might have to stop when I get older and don't like going topless.  I think I have a few more years:)

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 4, 2012 at 10:32pm

sk8eycat, I had to look up, "Aspie" and read a couple of articles suggested by Google. Can you, if you want to, describe what Aspie means to you, how you experience it, does stress cause you problems, other than usual. Do you experience unusual giftedness in some area of your life? How has it held you back, and how has it put you forward?  I hope these aren't too personal. If so, just tell me to mind my own business. 
I like your business card idea, as well. 
Someone suggested a response to a religious person, "I respect you too much to not tell you I disagree with your statement." 

Comment by sk8eycat on August 4, 2012 at 9:24pm

I quit believing in the supernatural about 50 years ago, and then I noticed commentators on TV (when they still had real people doing the news...mostly) sometimes saying "Well, I don't agree with his beliefs, but I have to respect him for them."  And I started asking myself, "WHY?"  It was sort of their form of the knee-jerk, "Any religion is better than none" crap.  So I came up with this:


I should print it on business-size cards to hand out to the doorbell-ringers. 

(Oh, my nerves!  You all KNOW that my sister, who lives with me, is a Jehovah's Witless, AND an Aspie.  Such fun!)

Comment by sk8eycat on August 4, 2012 at 4:14pm

Oh, Melinda, don't do that to your mouth! It will damage your teeth. He's a self-righteous son of a something (I will NOT insult female dogs!), and not worth it.  I just wish the people in the stadium would boo and laugh at him.  Show-off.

The real thing that's p*ssing me off about quitting driving is that I really haven't saved all that much money.  Okay, no taxes, no gasoline, no insurance, no mantenance, BUT the price of food and meds keeps going up.

And when I quit driving last year I didn't have any I have two.  Good brands of litter are damned expensive; I won't use the clay crap...or even the crystals.  I get the brands that are biodegradable. (Wheat or Corn leavings...wonder what the disaster in the midwest is going to do to those products!)I am glad I adopted the old kitteh-men, though. Jerry is becoming a real comfort...just recently he's started sleeping in my arms, and that helps me go to sleep.  He's so soft!

Comment by sk8eycat on August 4, 2012 at 2:38pm

The "god did it" sounds too much like "god did it for ME."  It's very close to the theme of the last column Judy Hayes wrote titled, "I'm So blessed."  The kind of stupid things people say when they pass a test or something.  Yeah.  I'm blessed, and you're NOT.  Arrogant.

"God loves me and helped me win a gold-plated medal, and he lets 7 million children die of hunger and disease every year."

One of the things that opened my eyes 50 years ago was how self-centered Christians sounded to me when I stopped going to church regularly.  I cringed, and hoped I didn't do too much of that kind of god-talk when I was caught up in it.


When I was in Holiday, I used to see some of the European skaters quickly cross themselves just before the curtains opened for the opening number. I wodered if they were hoping it would help them skate well, or just protect them from falling on their a##es and looking stupid.

Comment by Ian Mason on August 4, 2012 at 1:31pm

Never really thought about it before reading posts here, this sport and God connection. Danish competitors have won a handfull of medals in rowing at the Olympics and have been interviewed for what seems like hours and all the talk is of "hard work" "deserved" "believed in ourselves" "believed we could" "a little bit of luck" and the like. The nearest there's been to religion has been a picture of two people praying (on others behalf) before an event. I can't imagine what it would be like hearing "God did it" so often.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on August 4, 2012 at 12:01pm

Sk8eycat, my little Toyota Corolla permanently went kaput eleven years ago and I never bothered to replace it.  I can't begin to imagine the amount of money I've saved by not having to pay for gas, insurance, municipal fees, and maintenance for ten-plus years.   


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