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The Burial Waltz

Started by Donatien Alphonse François. Last reply by Donatien Alphonse François Apr 26. 4 Replies

Hi everyone,It was almost a half-century ago, at age 15 or so, that I encountered one of the more important influences in my life: a crazy group of poets/musicians who called themselves The Fugs.They had a huge impact on me in that, though raised in…Continue

Some William Blake to Ponder

Started by Donatien Alphonse François. Last reply by Donatien Alphonse François Apr 25. 6 Replies

Hello all,I'm new here, and so hope this isn't old hat. But, I just had to point you toward a marvelous poem by William Blake in case you've never read it. Despite his sometimes heavily tinged biblical references in his other art and poetry, this…Continue

God's Not Dead - The Christian Persecution Complex (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Annie Willis Apr 20. 7 Replies

Doubtless most if not all of you have heard about that sorry piece of cinema known as God's Not Dead, and perhaps its sequel, cleverly entitled: God's Not Dead 2 (wow, how original!).  Personally, I have wasted neither time nor money on either,…Continue

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Confirmed: flagged by religious people for "bullying."

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller Apr 19. 4 Replies

According to Seth Andrews @SethAndrewsTTA  Apr 16"Confirmed. TTA was flagged by religious people for "bullying." Apparently, criticism and skepticism = persecution. #GodHatesFacts"Others reported as "Flagged" and taken off line: @The Thinking…Continue

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The Value of Atheist Nexus ... and of Keeping Contact

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 17. 13 Replies

I don't know about you, but the last 24+ hours were VERY uncomfortable for me.  Why?  Because something I value a LOT, being Atheist Nexus and the people I care about on A|N were temporarily unavailable to me.  No, we're not Facebook; I don't think…Continue

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Atheist Pig STRIKES AGAIN!!!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Qiana-Maieev Apr 5. 1 Reply

There's no getting around it, Atheist Pig is fast becoming my fave secular comic, and as evidence, I refer you to the following.  Jesus and Mo had better watch their respective asses, 'cuz they got a porker coming up on the outside, and I'm pretty…Continue

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Comment by tom sarbeck on July 20, 2011 at 2:16am

Ian, it was once that way here.

The change began in 1953 (the year after I returned from the Korean War) when Eisenhower gave the CIA his okay to overthrow Iran's elected government. Iran wanted England to pay more for Iranian oil and for the English-owned Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (which became BP) to treat its Iranian employees better.

The US of A installed a friendly tyrant and we taxpayers paid to train the Shah's secret police to frighten Iranians into obedience. In 1974 the Iranians overthrew the Shah. The US of A let him enter (allegedly for medical treatment),which so outraged young Iranians that they took over the American embassy.

A case can be made that 9/11 was payback for American foreign policy in the Middle East.

When someone says we acted in Iran to prevent a takeover by the Soviet Union, I ask if that was our reason for overthrowing elected governments in Central and South America (Guatemala and Chile).


Comment by Ian Mason on July 20, 2011 at 1:50am

At least one political commentator has described the difference between American and European government this way: In the U.S.A. it's the right-wing that runs up deficits (tax cuts, defence, prestige projects) and the Democrats that have to get things straight when they get into the White House. In Europe it's the opposite. The (vaguely) left-wing use a lot of money on social services that then are cut when the conservatives are in power in order to balance the budget.

Example: Reagan: big money for "Star Wars" etc: Thatcher: close or privatise anything that wasn't making a profit.


This may be a simple view but I've found it convincing.


Comment by tom sarbeck on July 20, 2011 at 1:47am

I once saw a proposed balanced budget amendment. We can count on such an amendment to allow unbalanced budgets in crises, or when our elites want to support the military-industrial complex.


Comment by Natalie A Sera on July 20, 2011 at 1:31am
I heard on the radio today that the Gang of Six (3 Republicans, 3 Democrats) came to an agreement today that the Democrats will accept large cuts to social services, and the Republicans will accept tax increases. But the zinger was that the Republicans also got a Constitutional Amendment requiring a balanced budget. That scares me, because in times of economic stress, when govt. revenues fall, the economy needs stimulation, not contraction. Of course, a Constitutional Amendment would have to go through channels and be ratified by a certain percentage of states, but I wonder whether it could go through. There are enough people who really don't understand the realities of the federal government to make any kind of rational decision on it.
Comment by tom sarbeck on July 20, 2011 at 1:30am

Before we turn our attention away from TX (How dare we?), here's something I heard when my wife and I lived in Austin:

At football games, TX A&M students throw firecrackers.

UT students light them and throw them back.

BTW, that was pre-Roe v. Wade and my wife taught fourth grade. The Austin schools had a sex ed program that started in second grade, and she happened to choose an MD who'd helped design the program. She kept him informed on was was happening in classrooms.


Comment by tom sarbeck on July 20, 2011 at 1:18am

Kit, I too thank you for the Caselaw link. The Ninth is my second most favorite amendment, and by editing the URL slightly I found Caselaw's info on it.

I once asked ACLU's SCOTUS attorney when the Court might give meaning to the Ninth. He replied, "Not in our lifetimes."

I read a few years ago that the only amendment that has not been litigated (read, "...the gov't has not yet violated...") is the Third.


Comment by Chris G on July 20, 2011 at 12:42am
The Mc Collum case is worth looking at.
Comment by Natalie A Sera on July 19, 2011 at 10:21pm

Try Zazzle

I think they will let you order as few as ONE, and they have lots of other gear and clothing that you can design by yourself, or order stuff already made up from a massive collection -- you can't even get through it, because there are thousands of items. They even have atheist T-shirts, some of which I find offensive, and I couldn't find the italic red A one, but if you've got a picture of anything you want on a T-shirt, or a mug or a bumper sticker, you can upload it.

Comment by Natalie A Sera on July 19, 2011 at 10:04pm

Kit, you live in one of the areas of the US that get enough sunshine to make solar power practical. Most places don't, because the sun doesn't come high enough in the sky, and during the winter, doesn't shine long enough, anyway.

I live in Reno, Nevada, and thermal might be a way for us, since the magma pool is pretty close to the surface here. But that's not true for everywhere, either.

So each place has to take into account their own geographical and geological factors, and go from there.

Comment by Daniel W on July 19, 2011 at 9:52pm
I did medic training for 6 months in San Antonio in 1974. There was one disappointment, I thought everything inTexas was supposed to be big. All I could think was, Chicago had Taco Bells bigger than the Alamo. You've probably heard that a thousand times... oh well. As a man-loving-man atheist vegetarian, I'm sure I'd be REAL popular there. The only cranberry in a big bowl of oatmeal :)

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