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Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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The Burial Waltz

Started by Donatien Alphonse François. Last reply by Donatien Alphonse François on Wednesday. 4 Replies

Hi everyone,It was almost a half-century ago, at age 15 or so, that I encountered one of the more important influences in my life: a crazy group of poets/musicians who called themselves The Fugs.They had a huge impact on me in that, though raised in…Continue

Some William Blake to Ponder

Started by Donatien Alphonse François. Last reply by Donatien Alphonse François Apr 25. 6 Replies

Hello all,I'm new here, and so hope this isn't old hat. But, I just had to point you toward a marvelous poem by William Blake in case you've never read it. Despite his sometimes heavily tinged biblical references in his other art and poetry, this…Continue

God's Not Dead - The Christian Persecution Complex (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Annie Willis Apr 20. 7 Replies

Doubtless most if not all of you have heard about that sorry piece of cinema known as God's Not Dead, and perhaps its sequel, cleverly entitled: God's Not Dead 2 (wow, how original!).  Personally, I have wasted neither time nor money on either,…Continue

Tags: God's Not Dead, patheos, Neil Carter, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Confirmed: flagged by religious people for "bullying."

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller Apr 19. 4 Replies

According to Seth Andrews @SethAndrewsTTA  Apr 16"Confirmed. TTA was flagged by religious people for "bullying." Apparently, criticism and skepticism = persecution. #GodHatesFacts"Others reported as "Flagged" and taken off line: @The Thinking…Continue

Tags: @SethAndrewsTTA, @morehead_sarah, @Matt_Dillahunty, @jteberhard, confirmed

The Value of Atheist Nexus ... and of Keeping Contact

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 17. 13 Replies

I don't know about you, but the last 24+ hours were VERY uncomfortable for me.  Why?  Because something I value a LOT, being Atheist Nexus and the people I care about on A|N were temporarily unavailable to me.  No, we're not Facebook; I don't think…Continue

Tags: maintenance, community, availability, Atheist Nexus

Atheist Pig STRIKES AGAIN!!!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Qiana-Maieev Apr 5. 1 Reply

There's no getting around it, Atheist Pig is fast becoming my fave secular comic, and as evidence, I refer you to the following.  Jesus and Mo had better watch their respective asses, 'cuz they got a porker coming up on the outside, and I'm pretty…Continue

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Comment by Susan Stanko on July 19, 2011 at 5:01pm
I think I had to memorize it before Schoolhouse Rock did this.  It would have made it sooo much easier.
Comment by Kit Blumenstein on July 19, 2011 at 4:58pm

For you's really pretty easy to remember...even if I don't know it set to music.  One of the curses of teaching.

"We the people of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.


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Comment by Kit Blumenstein on July 19, 2011 at 4:00pm
" promote the general welfare.." is in the preamble of the constitution and the years have shown that all parts of the constitution are open to interpretation of both the people and the times.  To me personally, it means that the government is responsible for the many things we can not as individuals tend to ourselves.  This is why we pay taxes.  The government is to  establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.  Those few words are the social contract between we the citizens and our chosen government.


To continue on the path that was set for us by the founders we must take responsibility, for the actions of ourselves and our government.  Some of that is voting and paying taxes, there is far more that we do not accept as our responsibility, it's far easier to blame those fools we elect.

Comment by Ian Mason on July 19, 2011 at 3:26pm
Well put, Natalie. Freedom includes responsibility.
Comment by Natalie A Sera on July 19, 2011 at 1:01pm


Clarence, I think it has something to do with how you define the idea of "promoting the general welfare" or however they word it in the Constitution (I'm obviously not a Constitutional scholar, LOL!) Some things are indisputably necessary for the govt. to do, such as national defense (not talking about Afghanistan, but what about WWII? That was a clear case). Some things are (to me) indisputably NOT necessary, such as determining whether a woman may have an abortion. But there are a lot of things in between. What about vaccinations? Refusing vaccinations can and does result in deaths of innocent children. But it also carries a small risk of adverse reactions. So do you have the right to choose to refuse to vaccinate your child, when, if he gets the disease, he can give it to an infant too young to be vaccinated, and kill that infant? (I'm thinking of the pertussis deaths)

Education has clearly been associated with the general welfare, along with (hopefully) making citizens better able to vote intelligently (although that seems questionable, LOL!). Do you have the right to CHOOSE not to pay taxes for education?

I guess when I hear people talking about choice when it comes to supporting govt. the choice usually boils down to the idea that they want to support their pet causes (if they have any), and everyone else can go to hell. A truly cooperative society just doesn't work that way. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours, to the best of my ability. But we may not have equal abilities -- does that mean you'll take my back scratching, but leave me out of it when it's my turn?

Comment by Susan Stanko on July 19, 2011 at 7:52am
So, Congress promoting the general welfare doesn't actually mean that?  This is what I don't get about libertarians.  They say they are following the constitution but, they really aren't.
Comment by Clarence Dember on July 19, 2011 at 12:51am
I give up trying to type on this phone. I'm m out of this no edit group. Cute. No eraser, no input.
Comment by Clarence Dember on July 19, 2011 at 12:48am
Narhalie, I can give to the poor or to the charity of my choice or to the bum standing outside the bodega or quick mart. As soon as you make it an obligation for me to give on your criterion you take away my choice in the matter. So I can be for a "woman's ring to choose" and that's OK as long as 8'm not for my own right to choose.
Comment by Natalie A Sera on July 18, 2011 at 11:33pm
Kit, a Bill of Responsibilities is a fascinating idea! Not that I think it will ever happen. :-( But we are evolved to be social animals, and even apes take care of each other. The selfishness of some (not all) wealthy people, libertarians, and Republicans appalls me. And where is the Religious Right, who are supposed to be adhering to Christian ideals? I know Clarence Dember won't agree with me, but I was raised with the ethic that no matter how poor you are, you need to give to those who are poorer. For the wealthy, that is a VAST number of people!

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