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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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Issues Atheist, Feminist, GLBTQ, Climate Change

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by BenGee 16 hours ago. 3 Replies

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The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly on Thursday. 15 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo on Tuesday. 2 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

A moment to relax and see the Earth from space; some how this comforts me.

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Qiana-Maieev Oct 16. 3 Replies

All the squabbles and struggles that I have do not compare with those of some others on this great planet. There are no boundary lines, no political arguments, no up or no down. What is, is. For right now, the scenes offer tranquility. Just the…Continue

Tags: and, wonder, awe, of, space

His Dark Materials and the Catholic Church

Started by Tonya R. Wheeler. Last reply by Plinius Oct 16. 27 Replies

I recently watched the movie, "The Golden Compass" and since I could not find the sequels, I read the books. I enjoyed them, and I will be reading the first one, Northern Lights, starting tomorrow, since it just arrived via inter-library…Continue

Tags: Fantasy, Catholic, Religion, Atheist, Pullman

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Sep 29. 39 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

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Comment by k.h. ky on December 8, 2015 at 1:41pm
Randy, not a problem! Cataract surgery is nothing. In and out in less than an hour with an excellent outcome! Nothing to it.
Comment by Randall Smith on December 8, 2015 at 8:24am

Sorry I forgot to ask about you, Kathy! It's just that cataract surgery is really no big deal, certainly not compared to a kidney transplant. Thanks, Carl, for the update. Glad to hear of your progress, albeit a slow and frustrating one.

For me, this group site is a good place to air out our problems, concerns, and happenings. Joan's move, Daniel's upcoming retirement (and health issues), Ian's work woes, Carl of course, etc. I feel quite fortunate not to have any major personal issues. I know I have a selfish streak in me, so I try to compensate by asking about others. Afterall, we all like to talk about ourselves.

Comment by k.h. ky on December 7, 2015 at 10:11pm
Joan I join you in thanking Randy for thinking to ask about Carl's health.
I had my last cataract surgery and hadn't been on here much while I was trying to put three types drops in my eye four times a day. I couldn't see much while that was being done. Now that both eyes are finished, and I'm down to two eye drop a day I'm amazed at what I can see. And the procedures were the easiest things I've ever had done.
Comment by k.h. ky on December 7, 2015 at 10:03pm
Carl, l had a young sister in law that had a kidney transplant and I remember her meds being tweaked. It takes a while but after you get the correct dose it's much less tiring and time consuming. How is your sister recovering?

Ian, you're almost there now. Just a few more days and you have it made!
Comment by Joan Denoo on December 7, 2015 at 5:31pm

Ian, sorry to learn of your malaise. Depression can be a dreadful experience. I urge you to do everything you can to get out of the dumps.  Worry can be so debilitating; it saps your energy and the energy of those who care about you. 

There are many kinds of therapy and some work quickly and get one back on one's feet, others seem not to be so effective. 

I prefer "Cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT). It is designed to help people find new ways of dealing with hurtful thoughts and behaviors. Instead of delving into the past to determine where a feeling or emotion comes from, CBT helps patients become more aware of how their beliefs or actions are contributing to depression. Once those are identified, a therapist will work with his or her patient to replace those negative attitudes with more positive ones. There may be daily or weekly exercises and guidance involved to help patients apply the skills they learn in therapy to the real world. Research has shown that many people who undergo CBT for depression see significant improvement."

Learning new skills, identifying situations that influence me to feel anger, fear, sadness, guilt, or shame, and then exploring ways to solve a problem if it is solvable, or learning ways to let go of the hurtful feelings, or accept reality without creating delusions. 

Many people turn to religion for a crutch when they feel helpless or hopeless. That is just another delusion and doesn't solve anything. Some claim to feel better with religion; it is a mental construct that allows them to give the problem to god and let go. 

Letting go of a bad feeling requires solving a problem or reframing the experience into a healthy way of thinking. For example, when a person experiences the death of a child, instead of giving the pain to god, a healthy response is to face the reality of the loss, express gratitude for the one who died. Reframe the grief into gratitude.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 7, 2015 at 4:50pm

Randy, thanks for asking Carl for his update. I watch each mail to see if there is a word from him even as I know the recovery of energy level takes time. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 7, 2015 at 4:47pm

Carl, thank you for the update. I am very happy to learn the surgery and hospital experience went well and you came home ready to walk the road to recovery.

Your regime sounds very similar to my follow-up. When the first year was over, I felt a loss of not seeing my Cancer Care NW medical staff. I do have follow-ups now, but only every three months. Daniel's regime is different than mine. I experienced the weekly, then monthly, and now every three months check-up. I experienced the blood draws as virtually painless procedures. I hope your experiences are similar to mine. 

How is your sister doing? I think of you two often. If there is an energy that goes between people, I send you my thoughts for both of you reaching a new normal that works for you.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on December 7, 2015 at 4:06pm
Thanks for asking, Randy. Overall I'm doing well. Everything related to my transplant has progressed nicely. The surgery was a complete success and I'm healing quite well. Last week I had my thirty-four incision staples removed. The only problems I have is dealing with the anti-rejection drugs. They are causing nausea, hand tremors, and a general feeling of malaise and aloofness. Hopefully these symptoms will diminish over time. I left the hospital on very high doses. For the next several months the doctors will be tweaking my dose levels. The anti-rejection drugs lower your immune system so the body doesn't reject the new kidney, but too low is bad and too high causes bad side effects. I'm taking these meds twice a day, every day. I was told eventually I will be on a much lower dose daily or perhaps even once weekly. All this takes time and a lot of blood draws to determine the correct dose for me. I'm having to have my blood tested three times per week. Next week will start only twice per week for a month. The third month is once weekly. It's all a slow progression.

I'm also seeing a physical therapist twice per week to strengthen my legs, as my kidney disease caused such weekness. Getting my legs back to normal is expected to take several months.

I'm also on a 10-pound lifting restriction until December 24. Thank God the following day I'll be able to hold the baby Jesus when he arrives! :)
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on December 7, 2015 at 3:54pm

Tweak his cheek for me, Carl

Comment by Randall Smith on December 7, 2015 at 7:54am

Carl, what's the latest on your kidney transplant and all other health related issues? You're holding out on us!


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