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Men who challenge men to stop violence

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Grinning Cat yesterday. 17 Replies

Many men join in the effort to reduce violence against women and children and other men. He speaks of the need to place responsibility on men instead of focusing on women to stop violence. He offers a breath of fresh air, as do so many of the men on…Continue

Surreal, I haz it

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on Sunday. 83 Replies

Surreal, not just found in art.Continue

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Such Lyrics!

Started by Donatien Alphonse François. Last reply by Joan Denoo May 19. 8 Replies

Hello Friends,I was ruminating a bit today on my sixty-some years existence. My mind went back to teenage years when I first figured out religion is not only obnoxiously loud, but also nothing I wanted anything to do with. Truly. I knew by age 15…Continue

Atheist Pig STRIKES AGAIN!!!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller May 18. 2 Replies

There's no getting around it, Atheist Pig is fast becoming my fave secular comic, and as evidence, I refer you to the following.  Jesus and Mo had better watch their respective asses, 'cuz they got a porker coming up on the outside, and I'm pretty…Continue

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The Burial Waltz

Started by Donatien Alphonse François. Last reply by Donatien Alphonse François Apr 26. 4 Replies

Hi everyone,It was almost a half-century ago, at age 15 or so, that I encountered one of the more important influences in my life: a crazy group of poets/musicians who called themselves The Fugs.They had a huge impact on me in that, though raised in…Continue

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Comment by Gerald Payne on June 9, 2015 at 2:13am

Ruth, Joan, that global warming is happening is there to see. The problem I have is the emotive conviction that it's man-made. If carbon gas emission is the only explanation allowed for the warming, then the medieval warming~1200-1400, has to be explained using the same criteria.

During the medieval, grapes were grown all over southern England and the Vikings were farming on Greenland, so this isn't some insignificant detail.

History is a chronology of the patently obvious being proven to be the wrong option. People see the atmospheric rise in emissions corresponding with rising temperatures and it all appears so clear cut. The truth of the matter is that there are other theories that display the same correspondence, Svenmarks  cosmic ray theory can explain the medieval warming and the 'little ice age' that followed.

It seems to me to be an ideological worldview rather than empirical evidence that support's the man-made model. 'We must  save the world' and 'pin your banner to the mast' are noble ambitions, but lets have a disinterested look at the theories put forward and use judicious reasoning, not emotive passion, when coming to a decision.

As people are all to fond of saying the future of the human race may depend on it.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 9, 2015 at 12:27am

Randy, I don't know if we will be getting colder or warmer. All I can do is read what scientists report and try to evaluate them with an untrained eye. So far, I read and believe global warming. I do know that climate change is real. I might have to eat my words. However, climate change deniers are more likely to have to eat theirs. 

I am watching 

Twilight of Abundance: Why Life in the 21st Century will be Nasty, Brutish, and Short

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BK921Gy67A&ab_channel=TheInsti...

I'll chat with you tomorrow about what he says.

 

I do know that I am taking part in a grand experiment, moving to the country, living in the woods, growing all kinds of fruits and vegetqbles on ground that is probably sand left by the last Ice Age glaciers. 

You will probably live longer than I and will have a longer time to see what happens. In the meantime, I am having fun. I started out in college in 1955, majoring in horticulture, the only woman in the department. Here I am, 79 years old and doing horticulture in a way that didn't exist when I was in college. Oh, if my professors could see horticulture literature now, they would be blown away. 

I offer a hattip to Ruth for all the good research she presents to us. She picks articles and diagrms that help explain what is happening. I am really grateful to you, Ruth, for your fine reporting. 

I am on a new fork in the road. I am looking into peace. We have had a war college for ever. A peace college was begun in the 1960s, I think it was, and I want to see what has been found. It started for me when I read: 

Pinker, S. (2011). The Better Angels of our Nature. presented at the New York, New York: Viking.

Pinker, S. (2011). The Better Angels of our Nature. presented at the New York, New York: Viking.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 9, 2015 at 12:05am

Loren, that looks like one film I want to see!  Some interesting people involved. 

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on June 8, 2015 at 9:27pm

Randall, David Archibald's book isn't based on fact, or it misrepresents the fact. Here's a NASA chart. The Northern Hemisphere responds more quickly to Climate Change because it has more land. Do you see it getting cooler?

Global temperature records have recently been updated to correct for discrepancies in data collection methods.

But even before these corrections, the apparent slowdown in rate of warming, the faux pause, was only for land temperature. More than 90% of the heating goes into the oceans, and their heating acceleration never slowed down.

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Look at the ten hottest years.

So far 2015 has been even hotter. This is Jan to April for this year compared to previous Jan to April periods.

Models predict "a steadily intensifying El Niño that gets quite strong by the fall." "If anything like these forecasts come true, then 2015 will be the blow-out hottest year on record."

2015 Is Crushing It For Hottest Year On Record

Comment by Loren Miller on June 8, 2015 at 8:02pm

Just stumbled onto a new effort by Ridley Scott, coming this Thanksgiving.  Frankly, I think it looks pretty intriguing:

Comment by Ian Mason on June 7, 2015 at 2:32pm

Very sharp and to the point, Carl.

Glad to hear that your husband is on the mend, Ruth.

I try to be a 'minimalist' in my everyday life. It seems obvious that most resources are limited and that humanity is having an impact on the world. My one weakness in the past few years has been travel but I think that, as I don't run a car, a few flights a year are allowed.

Comment by Plinius on June 7, 2015 at 1:16pm

We'll find out what it is if we live long enough. In the meantime I try to keep my ecological footprint as small as possible.

Comment by sk8eycat on June 7, 2015 at 11:17am

I just think it's ironic that in the early 1980s everyone was in an uproar about "Nuclear Winter."  Which IS it, folks?  (Although the fall-out from thermonuclear war would make earth uninhabitable for every living thing....except cockroaches.  They'll outlive us all.)

Comment by Randall Smith on June 7, 2015 at 7:23am

Joan, your first sentence may NOT be true. I just read a book by a climate researcher, David Archibald, Twilight of Abundance.  With statistics (true or not?) as evidence, the earth's temperatures have not risen in the past 20 or so years. In "fact", he claims the earth is cooling, not warming. We're being duped.

And after reading so much lately about all the wrong things we've been told about foods and diets (eating  "healthy whole grains", eating fat makes you fat, etc.), it makes one wonder if he not right. His argument is certainly compelling.

With his premise that the earth is cooling, the bulk of the book is about a bleak future--food shortages, China controlling the world, energy problems, and many more. In fact, his subtitle is "why life in the 21st century will be nasty, brutish, and short." Quite the scenario.

I suppose the older I get, the more skeptical and cynical I become, especially when it comes to believing everything I'm told. I'd be interested in your take (Joan) on the book. It has me looking more closely at the information I'm being fed.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 6, 2015 at 4:07pm

Climate change is real. We may want to deny that fact; however, the evidence appears all around us. We are not helpless in this fight to raise awareness of the reality nor are we helpless if the next phase is violent storms. There are things we can do to endure whatever is ahead. Humans are adaptable and make adjustments beyond our imagining. 

Watching films of people living north of the Arctic Circle, of the things they learned how to do in face of constant ice and snow is a lesson in adaptability. They survived! The films of the people living in the most parched places of the planet and how they found food and liquid enough to survive is a testimony to the survival drive of Homo sapiens. 

I am positive the changes will be difficult. New skills need to be developed, new awareness of symptoms of different kinds of problems will emerge. I am already seeing differences in the need for water and then protection as the hot and cold waves sweep through. 

I planted hundreds of seeds in the Newport garden and most of them died from the cold and wet soil. Radishes came up, but then they come up even when I don't plant them. Radishes have some mysterious quality to makes them endure. Maybe goddidit!

Imagine the people when the last Ice Age began! They had to adjust. Imagine the people of the Great Plains when the drought hit. They had to adjust. 

Imagine the people of the pueblos when that drought came. They had to adjust. 

Imagine the people of the Great Plains when the drought hit. They had to adjust. 

We will have to adjust and we can do one hell of a good job at doing it. 

 

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